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Post by Rockhopper on Mon May 18, 2015 10:37 pm


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Post by Stargate on Fri May 29, 2015 10:35 am

Religion is very territorial, the red cross are always telling their solders, "onward christian solders marching on to war". The Indians will cut off your arm if you dare to disobey. The Muslims will cut your throat if you say anything about Allah. How embracing.

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Post by Lenzabi on Fri May 29, 2015 4:31 pm

And yet, those Christians in America have yet to realize 2 important facts, looking at the stories of Christ in the Bible, he was a Socialist.

Socialism started in America by a priest and his brother who was a writer of the times.

Marx decided to work from it and eliminate the religion based aspects of socialism.


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Post by Stargate on Fri May 29, 2015 4:59 pm

@Lenzabi wrote:And yet, those Christians in America have yet to realize 2 important facts, looking at the stories of Christ in the Bible, he was a Socialist.

Socialism started in America by a priest and his brother who was a writer of the times.

Marx decided to work from it and eliminate the religion based aspects of socialism.



Socialism started in America by a priest and his brother who was a writer of the times.

This I did not know where did they get it from?

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Post by Lenzabi on Fri May 29, 2015 5:23 pm

This I did not know where did they get it from?


Reading their bible, their own Lord and Saviour was healing the sick, making blind men see for free.

He fed the hungry, and made water to wine for a family at no cost to them.

all these charitable things that Christ did in their Bible inspired them to try and spread that to those who would not normally accept the religious teachings, but use these examples to try and better society was their goal. They saw the greed and selfishness growing back then in the 1800's, people taking advantage of others rather than working in a more community minded spirit, and they found that wrong. The basic tenets behind socialism was to better all humankind via helping your neighbor also live a meaningful, dignified and fulfilled life.

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Post by Stargate on Fri May 29, 2015 7:46 pm

@Lenzabi wrote:
This I did not know where did they get it from?


Reading their bible, their own Lord and Saviour was healing the sick, making blind men see for free.

He fed the hungry, and made water to wine for a family at no cost to them.

all these charitable things that Christ did in their Bible inspired them to try and spread that to those who would not normally accept the religious teachings, but use these examples to try and better society was their goal. They saw the greed and selfishness growing back then in the 1800's, people taking advantage of others rather than working in a more community minded spirit, and they found that wrong. The basic tenets behind socialism was to better all humankind via helping your neighbor also live a meaningful, dignified and fulfilled life.

You do know that some right wing christian tee party followers would grind their teeth if they hear you say that. How dare you say Jesus was a socialist, you are actually saying Christianity is based on socialism. Most people think communism is socialism, at least they fear socialism more than communism.

Yes you are right, Christianity is the first realization of socialism in the United States . Staling, Lenin, Mawu zi Tung, even Hitler, were great followers of socialism. Problem is they did not understand the fundamentals and the strong current directed them into other aspects they did, or could not see, or understand.

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Post by Lenzabi on Sat May 30, 2015 1:09 am

@Stargate wrote:
You do know that some right wing christian tee party followers would grind their teeth if they hear you say that. How dare you say Jesus was a socialist, you are actually saying Christianity is based on socialism. Most people think communism is socialism, at least they fear socialism more than communism.

Yes you are right, Christianity is the first realization of socialism in the United States . Staling, Lenin, Mawu zi Tung, even Hitler, were great followers of socialism. Problem is they did not understand the fundamentals and the strong current directed them into other aspects they did, or could not see, or understand.

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They fear it all as it is anathema to the indoctrinated Capitalism as they are taught by the Corporatists (Corporate-Fascists).

We are more Fascist in America than many would like to think about thanks to Corporate ideology infused in our lives.


to 2nd paragraph: Well, as happened some one took control of it all and made it more fascist (the Church power in middle ages to the Renaissance era), now all the neo Christians in America also practice more a fascist version of Christianity where4 the way they behave, he would not recognize what the were doing or about. Most do not even wish to be near a poor person, many have swallowed the Neo-Con demonization of the Poor as deserving of their situations, which they also do not understand that the majority of poor do work and find jobs, but the jobs they can get will not lift them out of poverty as the usual mantra of modern society claims it will. So few give to help the poor. many can;t stand to know that people in their churches even have diseases that make then poor due to disability(which they support the republicans in cutting the programs that help them scrape by.

No the majority of so called Christians are actually seekers of the worship of money and that they will some day be rich too, so they hate the ideas of taxation of the rich and the explanations do not come through as most taxes are marginal taxes,,,they tax past a certain point, not the full percent of paychecks, that is actually from our poorer workers who actually pay roughly 32% of their gross earnings. the rich only see small % for capital gains or other incomes thus they keep far more than a standard worker. https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/15/1357922/-How-I-Converted-My-Republican-Co-Worker-on-Tax-Policy?detail=emailclassic

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