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Post by Rockhopper on Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:10 am

This series of animated videos show how and why we have the financial system we have now. And it's draw-backs. Need to watch them all to fully understand what is happening.

It explains why I have been saying all along that Greece doesn't owe anything to anyone.



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Post by Stargate on Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:50 pm

Thanks for the video Tim, it was very well explained. However I understand that part of the equation, and I do agree with you that the money trail is a fraudulent one.
My point, or the point I was aiming to make, is not so much how did we get there monetarily on the material side, but how did we get there on the spiritual side.
On the monetary side we could equate it to a river flowing to another river. if we build bleeding off points in the flow of the river, less water will get to the river we are transferring the water to. If we continue to bleed off the water by building more bleeding points, the transfer will get less and less until at some point it will stop.

The spiritual part I am referring to, is realizing that eventually the water has stopped. What is so difficult to realize the water has stopped flowing. At some point the people receiving the water from the other end must be screaming their heads off. What caused this blockage of realization. When we are full of food or water, we have to stop eating at some point, it makes no sense to continue, or the food will start coming out of the same input port.
I do not have a stomach, so I do not get the signal to tell me I am full, I only get the signal that I am overfull. the way I overcome this discomfort is to quantify my input, which means I stop eating at some point until I can identify the amount that offers me comfort, I admit it is work because it takes quite a few runs before I could control the quantity.

Ok Tim, power is power but when does logic show it's illogical head? There has to be something other than greed alone working.

I have to agree with you that most people do not understand the monetary system to the advantage of the bankers. However, I believe if we were educated this could not have happened.

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Post by Lenzabi on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:30 pm

Considering we have seen even religious figures get the greed bug, and get insane using the lower people of their "churches" to become so fat off the little their followers give, it has to be an emptiness of soul religion itself cannot fill.

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Post by Stargate on Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:37 am

@Lenzabi wrote:Considering we have seen even religious figures get the greed bug, and get insane using the lower people of their "churches" to become so fat off the little their followers give, it has to be an emptiness of soul religion itself cannot fill.

Yes Len, that is the emptiness I am talking about, it cannot be quenched. Religion, money, politics, greed, sex, you name it, they are never filled.
This fact is the reason for my question, what is it, and where did it come from?

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Post by Lenzabi on Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:05 am

Greed seems to fuel that emptiness like fossil fuel on a campfire.

Not all souls are complete here on this world, some are still young enough to be caught by an allure of items and such. some have the compulsion to collect things. then there are the cold and callous, the shards I refer to them as. These are people whose eyes show little to no compassion or warmth, sharks eyes have shown more of that then these people do. These are the ones trying to use money, sex, power, etc to feel whole. How they are mere shards is hard to say, some souls may shatter under a certain level of traumatic conditions, others may have decided to see if they could try the world from many experiences at the same time in different bodies, when those pieces come together, they seem to find some of that happiness they seek, the rest stay unfulfilled.

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Post by Stargate on Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:34 am

Do you mean different people are partly on the inside of life, and others more on the outside? Some cannot come in and others don't want to leave. These people are holding on to what ever they can, even greed. I guess life has an example for phenomena period.

In that case we have to consider purge, only life itself can choose what to purge. It has to use the experience it has gathered for a certain period.

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:40 am

The problem is that if we take all the money (notes and coins) in the world it only makes up about 3% of all the so-called deals that are being made.

If, for example, I need $10,000 to buy a car and I go to the Bank for a loan, it's not really a "Loan" the actual money doesn't exist. It's simply a few numbers on a Spreadsheet Ledger. The problem with that is the Bank then calls that loan to me as an asset.

Now if I default on the payments the Bank claims that as a loss but it's not. how can it be when the money didn't exist in the first place? One can't lose what one never has. The only loss is the interest payable to the Bank which the Bank have spent in advance. Too many of these deals and the Bank goes down. That is a standard risk in business. A boo-boo can cost you a heap. Then the Bank goes to the Govt. and gets a Bail-out to cover the losses that didn't exist in the first place!!

As I pay back the loan plus interest the Bank writes off the money except for the interest! The Bank has to do this or raging inflation would be the norm.

In the US a few years ago, the Govt. had squillions of dollars printed to bail out the Banks. The idea being that then the Banks would do more promisory deals again. Didn't happen and now inflation is starting to rear up there.

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Post by Lenzabi on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:21 am

The sham can only go on for so long, and in the old times, they held jubilees where debt notes burned and all records cleared so they could do things and folks were unburdened,,,,,since they don't do that, they grind folks down based on their credit report numbers and other nonsense that makes it hard to get loans or do anything.

I just have to avoid loans for the next 2.5 yrs and my 58k debt is fully expunged due to being disabled. That is because no one will hire me, so I could not pay back the educational loans anyway....even though, if America invested in education more there would not have been any debt ion the first place. but that is another story that ties into the whole money from nothing scam the banks pull.

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:06 am

Quite right about the Jubilee Len. The reason we are in so much pooh now is because that has not happened.

When a monetary system is based on hot air there needs to be a way of writing off all that debt or society gets bogged down as we are seeing in current times.

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Post by Lenzabi on Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:38 pm

They just don't want to let go to their current money making scam

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Post by Stargate on Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:35 pm

@Lenzabi wrote:They just don't want to let go to their current money making scam

Len, in all seriousness, they cannot let go, you are asking them to stop breathing.

Tim, the system is criminal, however it was not created by the bankers by themselves, remember, they do business with the public. Sadly ignorance of the law is no defense. If the people were to know that they owe the banks nothing, how many people would respond?

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Post by Lenzabi on Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:22 pm

Star, they need to evolve or die

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Post by Kaere on Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:29 pm

Has anyone asked them to let go of their current money making scam? And who is 'them'? Do they have an email address?
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Post by Lenzabi on Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:36 pm

Maybe try the IMF? here we could try the Federal Reserve or any of the "too big to fail" banks as well, have to be the top brass though, and likely they will ignore it, up until the mobs with pitchforks and torches come to rip them out of their plush leather chairs.

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Post by Rockhopper on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:16 am

@Kaere wrote:Has anyone asked them to let go of their current money making scam? And who is 'them'? Do they have an email address?

Try this:

https://www.imf.org/external/countrycontactus/contactus.aspx?WebMaster=true

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:42 pm

@Kaere wrote:Has anyone asked them to let go of their current money making scam? And who is 'them'? Do they have an email address?

Email address: peoplesscammers@feds.scam. hope you connect. Smile
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