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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:11 pm

Interesting topic on history of Blacks Jews.


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Post by Rockhopper on Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:21 am

Good question Star!

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Post by Agartha on Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:50 am

When I was in Ghana I was told that the Gha people were direct descendants of the original Israelites.

I know nowadays the majority of Jews are white, some really white because their ancestors came from Norther/Eastern parts of Europe. But who knows about the past? I remember learning that it takes only 3 generations to change the ethnicity of a person (either way) so I wouldn't surprise me if the original Israelites were indeed Nubians.

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Post by Stargate on Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:13 am

My dear sister, I am so pleased you are not closed, because we know so little about our story. I think we have to start learning a little about who we are. we just cannot continue taking everything from people who have enslaved us. This has nothing to do with race, but culture. We have to learn about our past in order to right the wrongs done to us by another culture who claim to be us. Jews or at least white Jews are not the same people, I studied Hitler and the Nazis, most people do not know that Nazism started in South Africa. Hitler knew that the white Jews were not original. The Dogans, from West Africa, knew the white Jews were not the original Jews. These things are just coming to light thanks to the internet.
The white Jews went to Kenya, and Ethiopia, and took away so many authentic black Jews to Israel, and killed them because the white Jews in Israel began finding out that they were not authentic. This information was hidden from the world, why? Because they are afraid of what the rest of the world would think, and more importantly, what might change. Although I don't buy this black on white stupidness, there is so much that has to change between different cultures.

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Post by Agartha on Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:05 pm

Now that I think about it I think it was the Ashanti, not the Gha.... and if I remember correctly, wasn't king Solomon black?

Have they ever done any DNA tests with modern Jewish people?

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Post by Stargate on Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:40 pm

@Agartha wrote:Now that I think about it I think it was the Ashanti, not the Gha.... and if I remember correctly, wasn't king Solomon black?

Have they ever done any DNA tests with modern Jewish people?

I would suspect that would be the easiest thing to do, but do you expect them to tell you they are not authentic? Agy, believe it or not, there are evil forces out there with agenders that are different from other agenders. The truth is known out there, but hidden in there. Just imagine the amount of information about black people that is hidden in the Vatican.
I was a little bit surprised where this man from the video got the information from Russian artist about the paintings. I found black information in Poland and Czechoslovakia, I did not know about the Russian paintings. We learn something everyday. I have love for history, but specific love for my own story.

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:15 pm

First of all Star we need to define who the Jews are. In it's original form it meant a person from Jerusalem regardless of their beliefs.

There are two groups of Jews; Hebraic/Shepardic and Ashkenazim. The Hebraic are direct descendants of the original Hebrew tribes that wandered the Negev Desert. They are supposed to be the descendants of Shep, one of Noah's sons. The Hebrews were a branch of the Arama who migrated to that area after the last Ice Age. The Arama include the Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians and some Syrians. Palestinians are not Arabs but are Arama.

David was never King of the Hebrews, he was just a Clan Chieftain who took over several related tribes, often by force. His battle with Goliath probably didn't happen and is just a myth. In Alexander, now Lalataki, Syria, six Rabbis (Teachers) got together and literally created the Jewish religion, so most of what is written is not true and based on myths.

Abouit 600AD the King of the Kazarkhs converted to Judaism and forced his loyal (and some not-so-loyal) subjects to convert too. They became the Ashkenazim (converted). Not regarded by conventional Jews as real ones. Benjamin Netanyahu (real name is Wiesnieski, Polish) is one. So was Ariel Sharon.

The Jews spread around the North Africa and the Roman Empire and some others converted to Judaism too in those areas, all are regarded as Ashkenazim. Including a large contingent in Ethiopia who converted many years ago. Judaism spread across the Sub-Saharan parts of Africa from there.

The Ashkenazim are genetically divers as one would expect but the Hebrew/Arama DNA traces back to the mountains of western Kashmir.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:16 am

First of all Star we need to define who the Jews are. In it's original form it meant a person from Jerusalem regardless of their beliefs. wrote:

First Tim, It depends on which Jew you are referring to, lets use the term black Jews, and Israeli Jews.
A person from Palestine does not mean an Hebraic Jew, nor does the term Israeli Jew mean the children of Israel.
I grew up in a christian home, my parents worshiped the Jews because of the God aspect of the Jewish faith. I was born in 1941, and reached Germany in 1959. I began learning about Jews and the narrative of the holocaust in Cologne West Germany at the time.

The stories I heard about Jews mostly came from the bible, because there is the basis for Christianity. I knew nothing about a black connection, until I went to Poland. There I encountered the black mother and child, you can say I was completely dumbstruck. Not only did I hear a story I knew nothing about but had pictures and large churches showing the image of this black mother and child.
After that I began looking for some real information on who these Jews were and why they were showing up black in countries that were white.
My story as a African man were being told and I knew nothing about it, so I decided to follow the trail. I must tell you what I was learning at this time was that I had no story, or at least my story was being told by people who used my energy through the slave trade to make themselves rich and famous.
After not being able to find anything about who I was, because what was written was all in the words of the oppressor, I decided to hear what my people had to say about the truth. I discovered that Africa's story was quite different, and that the white Jews were not the authentic Jews. I guess you know that black people do not have a written history but used word of mouth, paintings, and hieroglyphs to transport their story down the passage of time.
To make a long story short I have studied possibly all I could to find out about the truth, and all i can say is I do not believe anyone, anymore, to tell my story. I cannot believe the people (who put me through such hell) would tell me my truths but to tell a story that suits their agenda. I know the Jews are from Europe, Germany, Poland, Russia, England, and many more European countries. They have been rejected by all their families, and some have been murdered. They have gone on to steal, lie, murder, and steal the identity of others. I am not willing to listen to lies and deceit any longer. I want to know the truth about my identity, and I cannot expect that truth from murders and Identity thieves, would you?.

At the moment I can see the devastation to our Deity like Isis, the mother of creation being desecrated by linking terrorism to the name.

Tim, I do admire you for not shying to discuss such difficult matters, it is indeed time we demand the truth, since we are inextricably tied to our planet and must find a way to live together.

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Post by Lenzabi on Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:41 pm

Yes, we know of the white-washing of art work depicting religious figures, that was what white Europeans desired as it could make them uncomfortable kneeling and praying, and submitting to brown skinned people, especially seeing they feared the dark skinned Muslims(still same today), as well as others from siberia.

But seriously, do you not think that all that interbreeding with Europeans would not also still show traits in their light skinned scions who still intermarried? You can see some of the Jewish heritage in light skinned people who show a few traits such as the curly hair aka the "Jew-fro", and large lips as well as non patrician noses. No one stole identity as the chuckle head in the video assumes.

Never assume, because then you make an Ass out of U and an ass out of me.

These anti-jew pokes make me perturbed as I have been raised in a Jewish family, and not one which saw stealing and thievery as a good thing.

In my family, honesty, integrity, scholarly pursuits, intellect, and hard work were the things my family preferred, my Mother's side worked also but they never accepted the adopted one whole heartedly. Still, History has shown that yes, original Hebrews were dark skinned, and a mix of straight to curly hair (mine when long goes into ringlet curls when it is muggy.) If you want to know about the truth, Ethiopian Jews would be one source, and still many white Jews are authentic, but the bloodlines are no longer the same as they were when they went from Africa and the Middle East to the North.

Am I saying all are angels? No, of course not, I have found that all ethnic groups have their good and bad. This is one of those confused conspiracy videos, and the person making this has an agenda of their own.

Now the folks who may be a problem amongst the Jews would be the radical Zionists who cannot stand any criticism of Israel and their rule.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:59 pm

Lenny as always you are right, I really do not see all white Jews as thieves and murderer's, and I do know that their are mixtures. My point is not so much if they are Jews or not, my point is about the culprit who has stolen my identity. I have to some extent Jewish blood running in my veins, however my being rejects that kind of behavior, be you Jewish, Christian, or whatever.
Lenny the truth makes you clean and healthy, I have been labeled with slavery for hundreds of years and it was not because of anyone, but myself. I want the truth for myself, I don't want to hate myself as I have been doing for hundreds of years. Some Jews are criminals as I have discovered, but I will not loose my humanity because I am hurting.
Africans have to carry their own burden and so we have for hundreds of years. Jews have to carry theirs.

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Post by Lenzabi on Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:34 pm

Once one confronts their dark side, and then embraces it as part of themselves, and knows how to keep oneself in check, that is one of the ways to living with oneself indie their own skin. We are both evil and divine, those who try to deny it,(and there are many who do), are fooling themselves, and in many cases others.

Every Human sub group has their burden to carry, ALL of them. Nobody here gets out alive.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:37 pm

Yeah Len, so true.

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Post by Lenzabi on Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:50 pm

@Lenzabi wrote:Once one confronts  their dark side, and then embraces it as part of themselves, and knows how to keep oneself in check, that is one of the ways to living with oneself indie their own skin. We are both evil and divine, those who try to deny it,(and there are many who do), are fooling themselves, and in many cases others.

Every Human sub group has their burden to carry, ALL of them. Nobody here gets out alive.

I know I post less than I used to for many subjects, but it is the embrace of myself, and letting go of finding any "meaning" for it all as I awaken each day, still on my vacation from the moribundity of immortality, but when this shell goes, I must once again wander the multi-verses and that is in the Dragon-shell, which awaits such a return.

What happens to others is based on their own journey, will they go to some stopping point and rest a while? Will they go on to new lives and try a different point of view on for size? Only the higher soul knows what is planned next.

I myself have accepted the Tao viewpoint, and will flow with the current. I sense that like me, you have the Grim-Reaper at your side, and the end of the shell life can be scary, that we seek to put the pieces of the puzzle together, to make "sense" of things, to grasp the meaning of life, the Universe, and everything, but it takes many lives to finally get a view of things, and understanding.

It cannot happen all at once, especially if you have more lives to live, the fear some have is they have no idea what comes next, mainstream religions have filled folks with that dread using that "carrot and stick" approach, aka "Heaven and Hell" to make folks behave and do as they are told. I hope this has helped you Star, to have eased the pain of the need to understand and make sense of what is basically ever unfolding and no sense or reason sits that can be simply unfolded like a book or puzzle.

It will eventually all make sense Star. But most of the Humans if not all on Youtube are not able to give the answers that you seek, too many are confused or ignorant, and have no idea that they also have what they think is the answer, only to have a object that is a distraction.

I understand at times I can also confuse folks, but this shell is overloaded with information I have been unraveling as it hits me in past life memories and trying to sort them out.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:21 pm

That was well said Len, life continues. Those words sounds meaningful in my ear. Thanks.

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Post by Lenzabi on Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 am

@Stargate wrote:That was well said Len, life continues. Those words sounds meaningful in my ear. Thanks.

You are welcome Star, with my years left to me, I try to help others as best I can. Wink

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Post by Venus on Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:30 am

@Lenzabi wrote: Nobody here gets out alive.

very dark and deceptive lie, that is.

and no humility shame or remorse
truely the damnation of a dragon

there are thousands of examples of those who got out alive for the literate to read of and recently living examples in real life that interested ppl have easily found

a dungeon master [aka dragon] of course would wish slavery and dispair on ppl to keep the evil one company in hell, out of fear of being alone.

and such fear is indicative of the mechanisms and tools dragons use upon their victims, also some have left alive and returned alive, of those a few have left and returned muliple times.

i wont tolerate a lie or liar
anywhere anytime
dragons like vampires burn
they are reptilian in consciousness ugly vile to humans who are Gods creation
and are rapists attempting to regain human form by interbreeding

the best of israel was brought to canada primarily
the rest in usa europe and the colonies

all these clues exist in the bible as a source and are evident to those who invested a lifetime of study.

no person can explain these things in an internet post
it takes a good 40 yrs of devotional study to see it, moreover the time was to be 400 yrs that is why israel is disappearing from these places

other ethnic groups are taking over

arguing who the jews are will never lead ppl to israel, a spiritual ppl in love with creator.

nobody gets out alive ... i can see already i wont be on this forum very long
such ppl should be banned for spreading lies that imprison ppl
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Post by Stargate on Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:44 pm

arguing who the jews are will never lead ppl to israel, a spiritual ppl in love with creator. wrote:

Venus,
Sorry I just saw this and thought I had to reply.
I don't think we should argue about who the Jews are or if they were gods chosen people. However if we go by the guide lines of the scriptures however tinted they may be, we could identify the real from the unreal and it could lead us back to the right path.

We live by truth and lies, and benefit from the outcome one way or the other. I certainly do not believe one has to study for forty years to understand a truth, some study less and some more the results are different,.

We cannot expect a lie or truth to be expressed and ignore the results as in the case of the black people that is scattered all over the planet. if the scriptures are the guidelines we use then we have to weigh the scriptures with the proof of our experience on the planet. If it does not match up then we have to adjust to investigate the truth.

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