The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Mordae on Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:28 am

This latest ruling from the Supreme Court could be best described as a kick in the uterus for women in the US...
Quote :
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/hobby-lobby-supreme-court-decision-5-takeaways-108467.html

The Supreme Court waited until the very end to deliver its most hotly anticipated decision of the term: declaring in a 5-4 ruling that for-profit companies can use religious objections to avoid paying for contraception coverage required under Obamacare.

The sharply divided result in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby immediately touched off a wave of analysis and speculation about how large a hole the court put in the side of President Barack Obama’s signature health care law — just two years after Chief Justice John Roberts sided with liberals to save the measure’s individual mandate from legal oblivion.
However it does raise several other questions, as undoubtably a lot of other corps have been keeping an eye on this. Realistically it sets precedence for Corporations to:
Avoid paying for blood transfusions and possibly skin grafts (JW's)
Avoid paying for treatments originating in pigs...insulin springs to mind (Muslim, Jews)
Avoid paying for any contraception treatments (Catholic)
Avoid paying (or hiring) homosexuals (Westboro Church)

Slippery slope really. Will this mean that your employers can track you through facebook, and then fire you because of religious disagreements of who you hang out with, bands you like, political affiliation etc?

The other question is if this ruling also applies to Corporations that have skipped out of the country to avoid paying tax (Pfizer spring to mind).

About the only bright speck of light in this tunnel, is the arguement that if Corporations have the same rights as humans and have religious beliefs, then by definition this means they also have morals and ethics, and thus should be punished (and if needed, killed) for law-breaking, eco-cide etc.

Mordae
Mordae

Posts : 583
Join date : 2014-06-14
Age : 47
Location : Waikato, NZ

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Rockhopper on Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:38 am

Aye Mordman, we watch the crap going on there with some bemusement!

The purpose of a corporate personhood was simply for tax purposes not anything else. But in the US it's become a political issue. I am amazed at the way religious nutters there can get so much control. None of those Judges would last long here fortunately.

Tim.
Rockhopper
Rockhopper

Posts : 4282
Join date : 2014-06-13
Age : 75
Location : Island Paradise

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Mordae on Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:34 pm

Yeah, it must frustrate Key a fair bit  Laughing 
Mordae
Mordae

Posts : 583
Join date : 2014-06-14
Age : 47
Location : Waikato, NZ

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Agartha on Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:02 pm

How Big Brother!!!!!!  People should choose their medical care, not their employers!!
Agartha
Agartha
Admin

Posts : 14745
Join date : 2014-06-10
Location : Behind you.

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Lenzabi on Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:12 pm

But here in America, single payer health care is a the bogeyman! "Socialism!" I swear, we as a population allow ourselves to vote the numpties into office rather than actually enforced service of intelligent, and I mean actually intelligent people to rule and then grab the next batch of competents and have them do their time in service.

Instead of good leaders we get religious nuts, warmongers, corrupt money weasels, sociopaths and psychos to rule us mixed in with true morons.

_________________
Warning!: Those who knock on Dragon's doors un-announced may be flame broiled, unless they bear chocolate/wine, or good foods
The Hobby Lobby Ruling Div20a11
Once they have tried scales, everything else pales! Twisted Evil
Lenzabi
Lenzabi
Admin

Posts : 2319
Join date : 2014-06-11
Age : 55
Location : Earth

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Rockhopper on Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:48 am

The problem is Len, we have good people who would do a much better job but they don't want to have to put up with the crap.

The end result is we get the slime-munchers and bottom-feeders in control. Most of them are just parasites sucking the blood from ordinary people.

Tim.
Rockhopper
Rockhopper

Posts : 4282
Join date : 2014-06-13
Age : 75
Location : Island Paradise

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Lenzabi on Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:05 am

@Rockhopper wrote:The problem is Len, we have good people who would do a much better job but they don't want to have to put up with the crap.

The end result is we get the slime-munchers and bottom-feeders in control. Most of them are just parasites sucking the blood from ordinary people.

Tim.

I know, sadly we can't have it where the good serve and then get released from public service
Public service, something the meaning of which has been lost on these parasites

_________________
Warning!: Those who knock on Dragon's doors un-announced may be flame broiled, unless they bear chocolate/wine, or good foods
The Hobby Lobby Ruling Div20a11
Once they have tried scales, everything else pales! Twisted Evil
Lenzabi
Lenzabi
Admin

Posts : 2319
Join date : 2014-06-11
Age : 55
Location : Earth

Back to top Go down

The Hobby Lobby Ruling Empty Re: The Hobby Lobby Ruling

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum