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Post by Agartha on Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:18 am

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Yes, in space but unable to launch a manned rocket to the moon and back.

I can show you pictures of the Apollo and the lunar module blueprints so you can see it was not made of tinfoil and that the astronauts were well protected in their command room.

But, let's go back to your sentence above. If we never got to the moon, who put laser reflectors on the lunar surface? Laser beams are fired on a regular basis through two telescopes: the McDonald Observatory in Texas and the Grasse observatory in France (south of France to be more exact).
Those beams of lights help us measure the distance between the Earth and the Moon to an accuracy of one inch. I won't give you a link as I know  you will dismiss it immediately, go google it by yourself and see.

If the astronauts didn't erect them there, who did?
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:11 am

Unmanned robot.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:28 am

NSA - June 24, 2005

"Using electric fields to repel radiation was one of the first ideas back in the 1950s, when scientists started to look at the problem of protecting astronauts from radiation," Buhler says. "They quickly dropped the idea, though, because it seemed like the high voltages needed and the awkward designs that they thought would be necessary (for example, putting the astronauts inside two concentric metal spheres) would make such an electric shield impractical."

Buhler and Lane's approach is different. In their concept, a lunar base would have a half dozen or so inflatable, conductive spheres about 5 meters across mounted above the base. The spheres would then be charged up to a very high static-electrical potential: 100 megavolts or more. This voltage is very large but because there would be very little current flowing (the charge would sit statically on the spheres), not much power would be needed to maintain the charge...........................

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It sounds wonderful, but there are many scientific and engineering problems yet to be solved. For example, skeptics note that an electrostatic shield on the Moon is susceptible to being short circuited by floating moondust, which is itself charged by solar ultraviolet radiation. Solar wind blowing across the shield can cause problems, too. Electrons and protons in the wind could become trapped by the maze of forces that make up the shield, leading to strong and unintended electrical currents right above the heads of the astronauts.

The research is still preliminary, Buhler stresses. Moondust, solar wind and other problems are still being investigated. It may be that a different kind of shield would work better, for instance, a superconducting magnetic field. These wild ideas have yet to sort themselves out.

But, who knows, perhaps one day astronauts on the Moon and Mars will work safely, protected by a simple principle of electromagnetism even a child can understand.



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Post by Stargate on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:33 am

@Agartha wrote:
Ω wrote:
Yes, in space but unable to launch a manned rocket to the moon and back.

I can show you pictures of the Apollo and the lunar module blueprints so you can see it was not made of tinfoil and that the astronauts were well protected in their command room.

But, let's go back to your sentence above. If we never got to the moon, who put laser reflectors on the lunar surface? Laser beams are fired on a regular basis through two telescopes: the McDonald Observatory in Texas and the Grasse observatory in France (south of France to be more exact).
Those beams of lights help us measure the distance between the Earth and the Moon to an accuracy of one inch. I won't give you a link as I know  you will dismiss it immediately, go google it by yourself and see.

If the astronauts didn't erect them there, who did?
My question is this AGS, how would we know what is real from fake? There are endless questions today about things we did not know sometime ago. Just recently they tested a reentry capsule they tell us they will be sending to Mars. Are they telling us that they sent this rocket higher than any other rocket and did not know what would happen in reentry? Did we not have the experience from our visit to the moon? How do we know they really landed on a comet? All we have are pictures and their word.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:39 am

can show you pictures of the Apollo and the lunar module blueprints so you can see it was not made of tinfoil and that the astronauts were well protected in their command room.

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FYI: The Moons surface is BROWN

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:01 am

No Stars from Apollo Moon photos. WHY?


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—Mars’ moon Phobos joins Earth and Venus shortly before sunrise on the morning of August 12.

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Post by Agartha on Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:18 am

VM:
I have already explained about the pictures with no stars, which is pretty simple to understand, please go back to my previous post about it. 

Moon surface is brown? How do you know that? Both pictures you posted show grey soil.

Unmanned robots? OK, show me the evidence. Not the evidence against men being there, but the evidence that robots went to the moon and erected those laser reflectors.

Star:
we have rocks from the moon, exactly 800 pounds of rock that have been examined by scientists from all over the world and have been confirmed to be from the moon by peer reviewed tests. Peer reviewed are there to find errors, and none were found in this case. Almos 100,000 samples were sent to more than 60 different labs all around the world and were confirmed to be from the moon, as they have characteristics that make them different from meteorites and from earth rocks).

And no, they were not taken by probes as robots could have taken a much smaller amount (the Russians, with three lunar missions, only collected ounces of materials to analyze).

And regarding the comet landing, etc., I have seen the conspiracy theories already saying that it is a hoax. The progress of the European Space Agency's amazing mission (Rosetta) has been monitored by Nasa and other Space agencies around the world (the Russians, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc)... are they all into this new hoax? Just like with the moon landing? The European Space agency is made up of many different countries.... so the whole world is united in this conspiracy? I don't think so.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:43 am

Your cell phone has more computing power than NASA circa 1969, yet we landed on the moon with that  piece a junk.  drunken



Temperatures ranged from 387 Fahrenheit at night to 253 Fahrenheit during the day, yet the Lunar Lander was not coated in a reflexive surface, why?



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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:49 am

How did they leave the Lunar lander parked in the 240º sunlight for 8 hours then climb back in??

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:51 am

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Originally discovered by Ralph René, one photo shows Collins in a no-gravity test inside an airplane. Collins is practicing for a space walk inside an aircraft. Collins is seen holding the jet reaction propulsion rod in his right hand.

In the second photograph, according to NASA and Collins, Collins is holding the jet reaction propulsion rod with his left hand while supposedly outside his Gemini 10 capsule.

NASA only reversed the negative and eliminated the aircraft background. If NASA is clearly capable of faking one photo, why not the others?

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:01 pm

Fake

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The Earth is almost four times larger in diameter than the Moon and when viewed from the Moon the image of the Earth would be four times the size and very impressive.


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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:07 pm

Van Allen Radiation Belts.


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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:19 pm


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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:28 pm

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Editor's Note: This is a genuine Apollo 11 photograph, NASA file number AS11-40-5922, allegedly shot on the Moon. This picture was apparently taken just after a series of close ups of the LM's footpads. The adhesive tape used was more likely to have been a polyimide or Mylar¨.

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Post by Agartha on Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:58 pm

Ω wrote:Your cell phone has more computing power than NASA circa 1969, yet we landed on the moon with that  piece a junk.  drunken



Temperatures ranged from 387 Fahrenheit at night to 253 Fahrenheit during the day, yet the Lunar Lander was not coated in a reflexive surface, why?



Moontard....

Are you calling me a moontard?
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:10 pm

No, just a tard. lsol Rolling Eyes

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Post by Rockhopper on Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:07 pm

Fascinating VM/Omega but the question is -- how do you know that the moon landing is a fake? How do you know that the photos that you bombed the board with are fake or real? How do you know that all those sites that say the the landing is a fake are real? How do you know that what they say is true?

How do you know how the thousands of people who worked on the project could keep this whole conspiracy a secret? How do planes survive lightning strikes? How can a capsule or probes travel through the van Allen Belt without being affected? These are just a few questions that you should be able to answer without any problems!

We readers are Luddites and we need to know these answers in simple terms, you should be able to answer them because you are a world expert on the subject, so please explain how you know so categorically that it's a hoax.

Seems like a religious dogma to me!

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Post by Rockhopper on Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:37 pm

To cut the response time down somewhat here's the sources of the pics etc. posted by VM/Omega.

There are three people; Bart Sibrel and Mary Bennett and David Percy. The latter two wrote a conspiracy book titled "Dark Moon" where they expound their whacky theories about the Moon Landing. Mary Bennett is Court Translator for the Old Bailey and has no qualifications of any sort that is relevant. David Percy is a film maker who likes to make short flicks about any conspiracy one can imagine. Both are in the business to sell their books!

Bart Sibrel is infamous as being the one who was punched in the mouth by Buzz Aldrin after Sibrel had followed Aldrin around on the streets shouting insults and epithets (his modus operandi). Buzz quite rightly, gave him a well deserved belt in the choppers! His only qualifications are that he is a cameraman who lost his job in Nashville for abusing other camera operators. None have any knowledge in the subject at hand. This is important when one is assessing the truth about what one is hearing or seeing.

Why is it that people believe the word of dipshidz like the above over experienced and well qualified engineers and experienced people who know what they are talking about?

The conspiracists all complain that Armstrong and the others never did interviews but that is not true either. All of the Astronauts on the Apollo Project conducted interviews with many people over the years, they just refused to be interviewed by conspiracy nutters. I can understand why!!

People ALWAYS CHECK THE SOURCES!! It only takes a few minutes and can save a lot of grief later.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:07 pm

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