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Post by Lenzabi on Wed May 27, 2015 10:33 am

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That's strong Len, do you think he is that bad? Even Hitler made some sense in terms of his views on culture. I cannot accept no matter how bad a person might appear that they are all bad and nothing good comes out of them. I am sure you don't either.[/color][/color]


To clarify, he is a mouth piece. Listening to him, he is using conspiracy theory mixed with Tea party and ultra radical Christian phrasing and mind set. Goebbels actually was more that function for the Nazis. Jones is doing a similar function for the right wing of America, who see attempts to "do them in" as they shout to get either sympathy or sow confusion. That was what Goebbels helped the Nazis do before they seized power. They have yet to have enough such power, but tea-party Republicans are behind the austerity in America measures as they cut funding for the safety nets, yet spend more on wars and feeding the Military Industrial Complex here.

To go further, we are in a bad economic crisis, the people are easily tricked with lies and fears used against them, and those are similar conditions which the Nazis took over control of Germany in 1933.

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed May 27, 2015 3:44 pm

As some-one immersed in the society and culture of the US Len, what do you really think of Bernie's chances of the top job? I know it's early days yet and there is a while to go (which may be to his advantage). And he is mobilising the Grass-roots electorate. But is it enough?

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Post by Lenzabi on Wed May 27, 2015 9:14 pm

@Rockhopper wrote:As some-one immersed in the society and culture of the US Len, what do you really think of Bernie's chances of the top job? I know it's early days yet and there is a while to go (which may be to his advantage). And he is mobilising the Grass-roots electorate. But is it enough?

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He is already grabbing the attention of the potentially powerful and more prolific voting block of the "millenials" so the younger voters who are effected by these bad policies by the Tea-Publicans may shake up the 2016 for prez and congress. we may see a Democratic revolution of sorts as the progressives in the party gain popularity via Bernie and what Liz Warren has also added to the debates. HRC is too much part of the old guard and money oriented, she is already having iussues. Bernie sounds like the 21st century FDR

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed May 27, 2015 10:31 pm

Hillary carries too much baggage Len. She also had her day in the sun last time as well. She's too closely tied to Billy and that is going to hurt her chances. I don't think the US is ready for a woman pressie either yet, perhaps in 2020 0r 2024 maybe.

I see that Liz Warren is making some waves and a few of the younger Dems are too. Time for a change is in the air.

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Post by Rockhopper on Thu May 28, 2015 5:26 am

Liz Tells it like it is;



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Post by Lenzabi on Thu May 28, 2015 8:41 am

Yes indeed, those that bring the workings of the politicos out into the light of day from the dark confines of the hidden enclave are making it clear things are broken and need fixing, and we need a 21st century "New Deal" as the present right wing policies and dismantling of the old new deal have wrecked us.

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Post by Lenzabi on Thu May 28, 2015 8:42 am


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Post by Rockhopper on Thu May 28, 2015 5:07 pm

Ours is something similar Len but we don't pay a State Tax that's all. Shocking ain't it?

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Post by Lenzabi on Thu May 28, 2015 7:56 pm

Many have no idea how comparatively little they get to keep compared to the wealthy

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Post by Stargate on Fri May 29, 2015 10:07 am

@Rockhopper wrote:Hillary carries too much baggage Len. She also had her day in the sun last time as well. She's too closely tied to Billy and that is going to hurt her chances. I don't think the US is ready for a woman pressie either yet, perhaps in 2020 0r 2024 maybe.

I see that Liz Warren is making some waves and a few of the younger Dems are too. Time for a change is in the air.

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Besides too much baggage Tim, I do not hear from her a direction in which she wants to take America. I would like to ask her what is wrong with America, and what is her plan to change it. Of all the candidates on both sides Ron Paul seems to have a small idea what is wrong, however I think he is little to late to change anything.

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