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Post by Rockhopper Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:21 pm

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At its core, most of medicine is still herbology, according to Dr. Jenn Dazey, Naturopathic Physician at Bastyr University's Department of Botanical Medicine. And growing your own medicinal garden is easier than it might seem. In fact, you might already have one. Many common culinary herbs have a long history as traditional medicines.

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Post by Kaere Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:43 pm

Ooooh I love bundles of herbs like those pictured, something so green and lovely about them.

Herb gardens are the most interesting to me, there's so much versatility, both in looks and usefulness. I haven't had one for a very long time... I should get on that!

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Post by Stargate Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:49 pm

Very positive news, growing your own stuff is the name of the game.

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Post by Agartha Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:36 am

Many of the medications we may take on a daily basis are made of plants, aspirin for example. I feel just like Kaere, I love herb gardens, I find them fascinating!

Thanks for the article, Rock, very useful information!
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Post by Lenzabi Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:35 pm

Oh, i can definitely use some sage tea

Of course with articles like this, I can also see the FDA placing a prohibition on these plants thanks to the Big Pharmas not wanting folks to make their own remedies avoiding the buying of their over the counter stuff.
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Post by Kaere Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:53 pm

I think they would have done so by now, don't you think? People have been writing and publishing and passing down information for a very long time now. It's not new to a lot of folks.
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Post by Lenzabi Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:38 pm

Kaere wrote:I think they would have done so by now, don't you think? People have been writing and publishing and passing down information for a very long time now. It's not new to a lot of folks.

Took them time, but they did make it so that Chamomile tea is officially not anything but tea, no medicinal value officially here in America. The two paths, regulate, or discredit hundreds of years of herbology
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Post by Agartha Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:15 am

But that's people's fault, Len: if people would only try to learn or re-learn natural remedies our ancestors knew about, then they would never forget that chamomile is a medicinal herb and not just a tea. And that you can pick camomile in the wild. The other day I was walking with my daughter and we picked some wild fennel ( I made pasta with it) and some chamomile and I explained to her that when I was young we used to boil the chamomile flowers, add the liquid to our hair and dry it in the sun: organic highlights I would call them now! lol
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Post by Rockhopper Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:31 am

My front lawn is Chamomile. Smells great when ya walk across it and makes a great tea.

It's really easy to grow. It's a daisy and produces squillions of seed!

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Post by Kaere Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:53 am

'squillions'.... *teehee* Very Happy

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Post by Stargate Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:26 am

Agartha wrote:But that's people's fault, Len: if people would only try to learn or re-learn natural remedies our ancestors knew about, then they would never forget that chamomile is a medicinal herb and not just a tea. And that you can pick camomile in the wild. The other day I was walking with my daughter and we picked some wild fennel ( I made pasta with it) and some chamomile and I explained to her that when I was young we used to boil the chamomile flowers, add the liquid to our hair and dry it in the sun: organic highlights I would call them now! lol

You are spot on Ags, most people around the world have given up on natural plants to embrace the multi corporations pharmaceutical industry. They complain about the high prices and have forgotten that some of these products grow in their back yards. If you tell them that they can use the natural product, they simply do not trust it because they claim it was not tested and given for use by the scientist.

Most times than not we the people have forgotten that in times past when we did not have technology to pave the medical way for us, we use to rely on plants growing wild and cheap. Modern medicine is OK, but it is not the only cure for our medical problems. We must have at least a little knowledge of what our ancestors taught us.

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Post by Kaere Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:22 am

I can understand some reluctance however... using plants doesn't offer the same consistency. You can't be sure if a concoction will be too strong or too weak, some may take too much or too little, causing all sorts of issues. I really think that's where most of the concern lies. I mean, if someone says "take some leaves and steep them"... how many leaves, for how long, can I add something else without compromising the effectiveness, are old leaves as good as fresh, etc etc.
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Post by Stargate Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:32 am

Kaere wrote:I can understand some reluctance however... using plants doesn't offer the same consistency. You can't be sure if a concoction will be too strong or too weak, some may take too much or too little, causing all sorts of issues. I really think that's where most of the concern lies. I mean, if someone says "take some leaves and steep them"... how many leaves, for how long, can I add something else without compromising the effectiveness, are old leaves as good as fresh, etc etc.

Kae, How many times do we go to the doctor and he tells us how many tablets to take and we end up dead ? We take medicines we have no clue what they do but we trust it. I think our ancestors did better than that. They left us with proven remedies that works with very little side effects even when we over dose.

Do you know we could save and also use a lot more natural remedies if the greedy pharmaceutical companies did not scare the hell out of us? They are not going to tell us that the remedy is growing in our back yards and the danger from side effects are minimal.

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Post by Kaere Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:44 am

Except... for example, you can die from taking Foxglove (Digitalis), it's extremely poisonous and potent. Willowbark and Chamomile tea are one thing but do not assume that there everything has minimal side effects. Chemotherapy drugs came from a plant, I wouldn't say those have minimal side effects. People die from eating unknown things just as often as from taking pharma meds imo.

Even eating grapefruit before taking certain medications increases it's absorption into the body and can cause huge problems.

I've taken tablets from my doctor and I am not dead. I'm not saying that mistakes are not made by the medical profession, I'm saying that I can understand why some folks prefer standardized medications.
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Post by Agartha Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:32 am

Most medications are still plant based and, like Kaere said, you have to be careful of what you eat and what other meds you take if you are already on a certain drug.

Sometimes there is no choice but to take prescribed meds, I know that, but I believe modern people are lazy and they prefer to get a pill instead of working hard.... an example I see all the time: a middle age person who is overweight and smokes has very high cholesterol (cigarettes have been proven to reduce good cholesterol). When they are told their high cholesterol could give them a life threatening condition,  instead of changing their lifestyle (get active, stop smoking, eat healthily) they prefer to continue as they are and to take statins instead. Statins do help reduce cholesterol but one of their common side effects is muscular pain. So then they go to the doctor to get something for the pain, and now they are on statins, anti-inflammatory drugs and painkillers. Anti-inflammatory drugs raise blood pressure, so the next step is to also take hypertension drugs..... and the vicious circle goes on and on.

I find this very sad.
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Post by Stargate Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:39 pm

Agartha wrote:Most medications are still plant based and, like Kaere said, you have to be careful of what you eat and what other meds you take if you are already on a certain drug.

Sometimes there is no choice but to take prescribed meds, I know that, but I believe modern people are lazy and they prefer to get a pill instead of working hard.... an example I see all the time: a middle age person who is overweight and smokes has very high cholesterol (cigarettes have been proven to reduce good cholesterol). When they are told their high cholesterol could give them a life threatening condition,  instead of changing their lifestyle (get active, stop smoking, eat healthily) they prefer to continue as they are and to take statins instead. Statins do help reduce cholesterol but one of their common side effects is muscular pain. So then they go to the doctor to get something for the pain, and now they are on statins, anti-inflammatory drugs and painkillers. Anti-inflammatory drugs raise blood pressure, so the next step is to also take hypertension drugs..... and the vicious circle goes on and on.

I find this very sad.

The great thing I find with natural medicine is the totality of it, most times I do not have to worry about side effects, and I must admit I trust my ancestors that they have tested it. Ags, there will always be risks in everything we do, earth is a risky place. Most times I find people are lazy as you say, they always want everything chewed up and they only have to swallow. Even if we trust modern medicine, it is always good to know natural ones.

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Post by Rockhopper Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:58 pm

Yes one needs to have an experienced Herbalist when self-prescribing natural medicines. What is the right amount for me may not be for you.

https://www.erowid.org (I posted this elsewhere) has much info on various plants and what the reaction to them is.

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Post by Stargate Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:29 pm

Rockhopper wrote:Yes one needs to have an experienced Herbalist when self-prescribing natural medicines. What is the right amount for me may not be for you.

https://www.erowid.org  (I posted this elsewhere) has much info on various plants and what the reaction to them is.

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The point being made Tim, was not so much one not knowing the quantity, but most people do not trust the natural medicine anymore. As far as I know natural medicines are much more biological friendly than prescribed ones. Not only that, most people have forgotten knowledge of the plants world given to us by our ancestors.

There are lots of information handed down about dosage left to us by our ancestors who have tested it for thousands of years. People have become lazy because it is much easier to swallow a tablet than to grow a plant. Most do not know anymore what plant does what.

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