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Post by Rogue on Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:44 am

Vast ocean lays under Earth mantle, may be wellspring for world's oceans
By Jim Algar, Tech Times | June 13, 2:20 PM

Huge reservoirs of water may exist 400 miles beneath Earth's surface, a new study suggests. Water may be bound up in the mineral ringwoodite deep in the planet's mantle, researchers find. The mineral is thought to exist in the mantle at depths between about 500 and 700 km; these samples were lab grown.

A reservoir of water lying deep under the Earth's surface may contain triple the volume of every one the world's oceans and may even be the "wellspring" source of them, U.S. researchers say.

Although not in a liquid form most familiar to all of us -- it is instead bound within rocks deep in the Earth's mantle -- it likely represents the largest reservoir of water on Earth, scientists at the University of New Mexico and Northwestern University say.

Writing in the journal Science, they report finding pockets of melted magma 400 miles underneath the North American continent that are likely signatures that water exists at those depths.

Scientists have long questioned whether the mantle, the rocky, hot layer between the Earth's crust and its core, might contain water bound up and trapped within rare minerals.

The new discovery is evidence water can be transported from the surface of the Earth to great depth by plate tectonics, the movement of continents and plates over the Earth's surface.

"Geological processes on the Earth's surface, such as earthquakes or erupting volcanoes, are an expression of what is going on inside the Earth, out of our sight," says geophysicist and study co-author Steve Jacobsen at Northwestern. "I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable planet."

Movement and partial melting of rocks in the mantle's transition zone -- a region between the mantle's lower and upper layers from around 250 to 400 miles deep -- could allow water to become tightly bound to the minerals there, the researchers said.

To test if the transition zone could be a possible deep water reservoir, the researchers used seismic waves recorded during earthquakes to analyze the structure of the mantle in the zone and to detect if melting is taking place as tectonics drives rocks ever deeper.

"If we are seeing this melting, then there has to be this water in the transition zone," University of New Mexico seismologist Brandon Schmandt says.

"Melting is just a mechanism of getting rid of the water," he says.

If the surface water the Earth possesses today came from such degassing of molten rock, the researchers say, that's in contrast to the theory held by some scientists that water came to a young Earth by way of large, icy comets.

It is of course the existence of liquid water on the surface of the Earth that makes our planet habitable and capable of supporting life, which is why its origin is of such interest to science.

The latest findings are strong evidence of a process where water has long been cycling between deep interior reservoirs and the surface through the action of plate tectonics, the researchers say.

"Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades," Jacobsen says.

And they may just have found it.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8474/20140613/earth-houses-400-miles-of-ocean-who-knew.htm
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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:29 am

Very interesting Rogue, however I have read a long time ago that German scientist knew or suspected that the earth was hollow and that what we find on the outside of the planet is on the inside. I think it is quite impossible for any civilization to fully understand the complexity of our planet. When you consider we live on a space ship with so many possibilities.

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Post by X on Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:44 am

I can't read all of this while working. Can someone tell me quickly the premise of the article?

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Post by Agartha on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:24 am

Whitty, you sound like Rockefeller sometimes.

Rogue, I read that article but on another newspaper the other day. Taking in account that is not liquid water but water mixed in the molten rock I still thought:

'I wonder if there is a vast amound of water under the crust of Mars"


Stargate: do you believe a civilization can live inside the planet?
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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:40 am

@Agartha wrote:Whitty, you sound like Rockefeller sometimes.

Rogue, I read that article but on another newspaper the other day. Taking in account that is not liquid water but water mixed in the molten rock I still thought:

'I wonder if there is a vast amound of water under the crust of Mars"


Stargate: do you believe a civilization can live inside the planet?

Yes I do, I think the planet is the same as our bodies, it has an inside and an out side. The most of the water we have flows inside the body, just a fraction flows on the outside of the skin. I think there is more inside the earth than there is on the out side.
We have just begun to scratch the surface.

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Post by Agartha on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:51 am

I agree.....hence my name, Agartha!

I don't believe in the hollow Earth theory per se, I believe that the planet is sort of like a sponge.........with massive empty spaces. In fact, close to the surface, there are caves that are so big a skycraper could be built inside.
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Post by X on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:55 am

So...a hollow moon theory has legs to stand on?

hollow moon..ie....space craft?

cooooool

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Post by Agartha on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:57 am

The moon is too small.
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Post by X on Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:04 pm

It just the right size for a space craft

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Post by Agartha on Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:25 pm

Well, I think Stargate suggested the space craft idea.......you know what I think about that.....lol
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Post by X on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:02 pm

The same as you think of Mormons!

prejudiced!

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:13 pm

@Agartha wrote:I agree.....hence my name, Agartha!

I don't believe in the hollow Earth theory per se, I believe that the planet is sort of like a sponge.........with massive empty spaces. In fact, close to the surface, there are caves that are so big a skycraper could be built inside.

You know Ag, I think the only way we can get an idea of what the earth is, we must all make up a vision for ourselves, I bet you we would all be right.

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Post by Agartha on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:07 pm

@Stargate wrote:

You know Ag, I think the only way we can get an idea of what the earth is, we must all make up a vision for ourselves, I bet you we would all be right.

Yep, funny how we all 'see' things differently, eh? That's the beauty of humankind I think.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:15 pm

The Earth's core may be PLASMA, not molten metal. WATER may come from the PLASMA.

At the same time, Owen also introduced an ingenious idea: "Are the pressure and heat in the interior of the Earth enough to maintain a plasma core? They probably are, and the solid nickel-iron core of the textbooks may be a myth".

wincom.net/earthexp/n/owen.htm

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:11 pm

vision-master wrote:The Earth's core may be PLASMA, not molten metal. WATER may come from the PLASMA.

At the same time, Owen also introduced an ingenious idea: "Are the pressure and heat in the interior of the Earth enough to maintain a plasma core? They probably are, and the solid nickel-iron core of the textbooks may be a myth".

wincom.net/earthexp/n/owen.htm

I would not doubt that, there is so much we do not quite know or we only know some of it.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:14 pm

@Agartha wrote:
@Stargate wrote:

You know Ag, I think the only way we can get an idea of what the earth is, we must all make up a vision for ourselves, I bet you we would all be right.

Yep, funny how we all 'see' things differently, eh? That's the beauty of humankind I think.

I agree Ag, everyone has a say in this thing what ever it is, and all possibilities are open at the same time.

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Post by Rockhopper on Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:09 pm

As far as we are aware the Earth is solid with a semi-liquid mantle under the crust going by seismic testing.

The Hollow Earth theory has been around for quite a while. It apparently started after Jules Verne's 'Journey to the Centre of the Earth' story.

Fascinating theory VM about the core being plasma. I would think that because of the intense pressure, it would't be plasma.

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Post by Stargate on Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:55 pm

@Rockhopper wrote:As far as we are aware the Earth is solid with a semi-liquid mantle under the crust going by seismic testing.

The Hollow Earth theory has been around for quite a while. It apparently started after Jules Verne's 'Journey to the Centre of the Earth' story.

Fascinating theory VM about the core being plasma. I would think that because of the intense pressure, it would't be plasma.

Tim.

I think there is quite a lot science has to revisit and do some more research in order to come with total truth. Things are changing so fast as technology exposes deeper truths.

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Post by Rockhopper on Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:54 pm

Science is studying it all the time Star. Every time there is an earthquake more studies are done. The patterns of the waves through the planet are studied consistently to discover what and how the earth is made up. The waves speed up or slow down depending on the material they are travelling through.

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Post by Lenzabi on Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:44 pm

we still have the molten Iron core reaction keeping us warm and making our e-mag defense from cosmic rays

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