Re: Soul Dynamics

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:00 am

Give it time

99% of scientist will never admit to souls....their careers would be in jeopardy...

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:03 am

Scient don't have the equipment to prove the existence of souls yet?..but kaere said they did in string theory....

but I know they will never admit...unless big bucks are attached

by Rinoa Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:08 am

This is something I wrote last night that explains it all in a round about way

Mmmm where to begin, today I was advised to speak real words, I'm not really sure what that means, but I will speak my thoughts on varies issues starting with the biggest disease that can effect mankind, and that is greed.
Money can drive a human to lie, steal, beg, murder,cheat and commit fraud, it can make one person discard the need of everyone else and there doesn't seem that there is a cure for this man made disease.

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:39 am

True words....and real.

everything is tainted because of it

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:16 am

Money can do a lot of good as well... it's not money that's the problem necessarily imo... it's greed that's the problem.

As for proving any of this, Whitty... it's not necessary. These are my beliefs as I've presented them, I've not stated that they are fact. I couldn't care less if it's reproducible or provable. I'll know for sure when I die.

by Marilyn7 Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:22 am

Souls .....I think I have always known about souls . I have crossed paths with people in my lifetime that I had never met but I knew them somehow? My beliefs are formed around the bible but it says we have souls it also says we all lived in the third heaven before we ever came to earth in these bodies . Something is going on when you meet a total stranger and your heart skips a beat , you suddenly get confused , you know certain things about them you have no way of knowing ..yes souls..beautiful things .....Science has done a test I read about once in that they measured the body of different animals before and after death , they actually weighed a bit less the moment of death . I think Mr.W you are correct ..money corrupts all things .

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:23 am

Well good for you kaere

I'm sure that the gods/creators/whatevers are super pissed that humans need such proof or evidence...

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:26 am

Marilyn7 wrote:Souls .....I think I have always known about souls . I have crossed paths with people in my lifetime that I had never met but I knew them somehow? My beliefs are formed around the bible but it says we have souls it also says we all lived in the third heaven before we ever came to earth in these bodies . Something is going on when you meet a total stranger and your heart skips a beat , you suddenly get confused , you know certain things about them you have no way of knowing ..yes souls..beautiful things .....Science has done a test I read about once in that they measured the body of different animals before and after death , they actually weighed a bit less the moment of death . I think Mr.W you are correct ..money corrupts all things .

nice

I have been synched out by some as well...i don't know for sure what's at play with souls...but I'm not dying till I know

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:30 am

Mr.W wrote:Well good for you kaere

I'm sure that the gods/creators/whatevers are super pissed that humans need such proof or evidence...

IMO "Source" "Universal Energy" "Whatever" doesn't think about it that way. There is nothing but love aimed towards us... same as I'm not angry at you for having your own thoughts and you're not angry at me for the same thing. There is no vengefulness or desire to cause pain or pouty petulant deity sitting around obsessed with being worshipped.

If there was such a thing, do you really think they'd be angry? Were you angry when your young children were figuring out their worlds? Questioning things?

You are obviously feeling very passionate about this and many other topics.

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:34 am

Mordae wrote:Cool concept Kaere It sounds very similar to a more spiritual version of the Web of Life philosphy

Does it? I'm going to have to google that... I may have heard of it but I don't recognize the name. Thanks!

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:40 am

Rinoa wrote:I always believed that when a soul chooses to return to the earth plane, that they have no recollection of the previous life, but according to a reading I had a while back, I did not want to return because of hardships I had encountered in a previous life, but eventually I agreed to return and a member of my soul family became one of my guides, I'm not sure if I'm right but I believe that we are sent here to learn life lessons, and we keep getting sent back until we learn then, we meet the same souls over and over again, I know that at times I have felt homesick for the spiritual planes, but maybe that is because I have an old soul.

This does agree with my thoughts on it... there is a kind of amnesia when you come into a new life. The merging of spirit and body (brain) necessitates it, really. It's a blending. Somewhere deep inside your mind however, you remember because of your connection with your higher self (which forgets nothing). We tend to anthropomorphize spirit because that's what we relate to the easiest.

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:42 am

Kaere wrote:
Mr.W wrote:Well good for you kaere

I'm sure that the gods/creators/whatevers are super pissed that humans need such proof or evidence...

IMO "Source" "Universal Energy" "Whatever" doesn't think about it that way. There is nothing but love aimed towards us... same as I'm not angry at you for having your own thoughts and you're not angry at me for the same thing. There is no vengefulness or desire to cause pain or pouty petulant deity sitting around obsessed with being worshipped.

If there was such a thing, do you really think they'd be angry? Were you angry when your young children were figuring out their worlds? Questioning things?

You are obviously feeling very passionate about this and many other topics.

I believe whatever it is..has every emotion we have,..i believe in a species being the creator

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:45 am

I also believe they will punish...i also believe they can give up

I also believe they "select"

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:50 am

Mr.W wrote:

I believe whatever it is..has every emotion we have,..i believe in a species being the creator

I believe consciousness is the creator.

I do not believe Source will punish (we're doing enough of that ourselves).

I do not believe Source would ever give up (do you not feel your own patience and determination?).

I do not believe Source 'selects' (I am my own person, I will take the blame and praise for my own actions).

I do believe there is emotion in consciousness but I do not feel that our higher consciousnesses would be hateful towards us simply for finding our way the very best way we can.

At times I think we project our own emotional state onto the world around us. If you're a calm person, then pretty much the world around you is going to be calm. If you're angry or feeling persecuted, then pretty much the world around you is going to feel angry and persecutory (is that a word?).

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:16 am

I believe the ancient texts.......and they can show anger...the worst anger you probably will ever see.........and on the flip side.......the most love you will ever feel

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:37 am

Yes, in the texts they are like that.

It's nice to read your inner thoughts on these things, Whitty... everyone's thoughts Smile

it's how we begin to understand each other. Different perspectives brought together is the only way we're going to see the whole elephant.

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:45 am

it is.......for me ..i have to get it out........dont you feel an energy telling you to say it....loud

by Kaere Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:52 am

Oh! By all means, get it out Very Happy

No

that energy drives me to speak my truth softly.

by X Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:08 am

I guess we all have different roles to play then

by Agartha Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:19 pm

Kaere wrote:
I believe consciousness is the creator.

I do not believe Source will punish (we're doing enough of that ourselves).

I do not believe Source would ever give up (do you not feel your own patience and determination?).

I do not believe Source 'selects' (I am my own person, I will take the blame and praise for my own actions).

I do believe there is emotion in consciousness but I do not feel that our higher consciousnesses would be hateful towards us simply for finding our way the very best way we can.

At times I think we project our own emotional state onto the world around us. If you're a calm person, then pretty much the world around you is going to be calm. If you're angry or feeling persecuted, then pretty much the world around you is going to feel angry and persecutory (is that a word?).

I believe the same and I agree with our own consciousness projecting our reality!! I have noticed that happy, positive people have just that most of the time, hapiness and positivity ( I say most as we are all humans and have lots of weaknesses) and they carry it like a light.

Bitter negative people have only that around them, and they carry it on top of their heads like a dark cloud and they think everybody is just like them...or they try to get others under that cloud too.

Funny how being under a dark stormy cloud makes you blind to those that are trying to share their light with you......

And I believe Karma we inflict on ourselves.......cause we need it, to remind us of something or teach us something.

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