Re: The Forgotten Technology of Ancient people.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Ollantaytambo



Inca on left (more primitive and newer) unknown builders on the right (more advanced and older).

[Monk (in hiding)]

Tell me how that bottom block could have been cut out?

How the heck did they cut out the back section?

[Monk (in hiding)]

No, the key stone cuts didn't hold the huge stones together.

What was their purpose?

[Rockhopper]

I wonder what it is about me that scares you so badly? Is it the B.sci.eng?

Is it because I rattle your cage and shake your beliefs? Only you know the answer to that.

You have never been to Egypt yet you know everything there is to know about the place. Hells bells! You don't even know the difference between Copper, Brass and Bronze. Yet you claim to be a metallurgy expert. Wow! Amazing!

All the above can be simply shaped with simple basic tools and don't need the effort of aliens!

Tim.

[Rockhopper]

I really don't know why I try but I'll do it again.

Your opinion is that the Ancient Egyptians had outside help in the form of alien intervention. I stress that it is your opinion.

Further that there is some sort of Grand Conspiracy to cover it up.

Now, resorting to ordinary common sense we will look at it objectively; you imply that every scientist involved with the excavations and subsequent testing/experiments have all been sworn to secrecy. Now using plain old common sense, that would mean that there are/were thousands of scientists from all over the world, of different cultures and ethnics, all keeping this terrible secret. That defies logic if nothing else. No-one could keep that kind of secret for long.

Your claim that various parts of the stonework could not be made with copper and that is true except that the Egyptians never used copper! They used Bronze an alloy of copper and tin, with traces of arsenic and nickel in it which makes Bronze very hard. Their copper came from the old mines in Sinai. Testing on the ore there shows the very traces of arsenic and nickel in it that corresponds with the testing done on all the tools found at the sites.

The Cairo Museum has hundreds of tools that were found at the various sites on display but, according to your opinion, they are all plants to cover up the real reasons. Again common sense should prevail here, why would they cover it up? 

Now using good old common sense again, there are many hieroglyphs that show all the equipment the Old Egyptians used. These have all been copied in every detail, using the techniques that were used at the time for jointing etc. and the equipment works as it is described. So common sense rules again. The Old Egyptians were very capable of cutting, polishing and moving large stones without the help from outside influences. If that is the case there would be good evidence to show that but there is none.

I note that each time I suggest a way of showing to you the info you carefully ignore the suggestions. VM/Omega you are obviously an intelligent man so why behave in such an un-intelligent manner? Any open-minded person would jump at the chance to learn more but your closed-mindedness shows the complete opposite to that. It's okay to have an opinion and I don't criticise you for that but to cherry-pick and re-structure known evidence to suit you purposes is completely wrong and has no basis in facts. There are literally thousands of pages of info that has been recorded and data that has been investigated thoroughly by many hundreds of scientists, the Smithsonian has many copies of that info. The British Museum in London has too. So does the Cairo Museum. 

It's that info that I base what I know from not some strange fringe sites on the Net.

Tim.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Gobekli Tepe, the world’s oldest known temple. Pre-history, before the Deluge.

“And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.”  “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.”  “And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.”    

-- Genesis 7:10-12

[Monk (in hiding)]

Çayönü

Site dated to 7500–6600 BC

[Monk (in hiding)]

Dated to 8400–8000 BC

What is known is that Göbekli Tepe and its sister sites have pushed back the age of monolithic building much further in time. Previously, we looked to the likes of Stonehenge and the Egyptian pyramids, but now we find that our ancestors were hauling massive stones to build their constructions around 12,000 years ago.

It is easy and tempting to label this region as “the cradle of civilisation”, but the fact of the matter is that it has already been proven that corn (maize) was engineered in Mexico at the same time, only underlining how the frontiers of “civilisation” are being pushed back on both continents. In fact, there is evidence of Barbary sheep being cultivated by our ancestors in North Africa as early as 18,000 BC. Furthermore, several grains of emmer wheat have been found at the Palestinian site of Nahal Oren, suggesting cultivation of this crop occurred there as early as 14,000 BC.



http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html

[Monk (in hiding)]

Karahan Tepe

Dated to c. 9500–9000 BC.


It has a number of T-pillars as well as high reliefs of a winding snake and other carvings similar to those at Göbekli Tepe.

It is too early to draw any extraordinary conclusions from these sites, apart from the fact that our history is no longer as we know it. But just as Jericho proved in part that the Bible contains historical facts, these sites may yet substantiate some of the Sumerian myths which claimed that agriculture, animal husbandry and weaving had been brought to mankind from the sacred mountain Du-Ku, which was inhabited by the Anunna deities. Though it’s unlikely that this mountain was Göbekli Tepe, we are probably in the correct general vicinity here at the frontier of the Taurus Mountains.
The past five decades have so radically reshaped our understanding of the period 10,000–4000 BC, specifically the level of “civilisation” our ancestors had achieved in those days, that this shouldn’t at all come as a surprise. And it seems that it’s a given that somewhere, even older towns are waiting to be uncovered.

However, it is equally clear that entering into the mindset of these hunter-gatherers—how they saw these animals and what they believed happened to the dead—is a difficult subject which will require years of study. Alas, it is an area where few archaeologists dare to tread, and in all likelihood they will hop from one site to the next, as they’ve done for several decades, and will “only” uncover the fact that civilisation is much older than we’ve assumed. Already, other sites are vying for Göbekli Tepe’s fame. The previously mentioned site of Jerf el-Ahmar, located along the Euphrates in Syria, has been dated to 9600–8500 BC. Other sites will certainly soon submit their applications. It’s likely they will all reveal that they are part of our history, but not as we know it.


http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html

[Monk (in hiding)]

[Monk (in hiding)]

Guatemala

Destroyed

[Monk (in hiding)]

lsol......

[Rockhopper]

Your point is??

Why bomb the thread, multi posts are not very useful.

Tim.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Sunken Ancient Egyptian City Discovered

Thonis-Heracleion




The Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC) tells us of a great temple that was built where the famous hero Herakles first set foot on to Egypt. He also reports of Helen’s visit to Heracleion with her lover Paris before the Trojan War.

[Agartha]

“And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.”  “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.”  “And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.”    

-- Genesis 7:10-12

I could spend  a long time debunking Genesis, Omega..... and all its incredible contradictions!
Just one for now:

Genesis 1:25-27 - Man was created after the other animals (so he'll have dominion of them all)
Genesis 2:18-19 - Man was created before the other animals (so he wouldn't be alone).

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Guatemala

Destroyed

The Guatemala head is a known hoax:

The stone head was created in 1936 as a memorial to the sculptor’s wife, and was reported by the American archaeologist Lee Allen Parsons in an article titled ”A pseudo pre-Columbian colossal stone head on the Pacific coast of Guatemala” published here: In Proceedings of the International Congress of Americanists (41 session, Mexico, 1974). v. 1, pp. 519-521.  There is (or was) a dedication plaque to his spouse on it done by the artist.

The whole 'unknown caucasian civilization' thing was invented by Childress and his mates (all ancient alien astronauts believers).

[Monk (in hiding)]

The whole 'unknown caucasian civilization' thing was invented by Childress and his mates (all ancient alien astronauts believers).

Place blame on the correct person! And why bring up ancient alien astronauts believers nonsense? Is rockie prodding you once again?

David Hatcher Childress saw the article in Ancient Skies and obtained a copy of the photograph from Padilla, and he flew to Guatemala to meet with Padilla sometime before 1991. Childress pressed Padilla for details about the location of the stone head. Wouldn’t you know it, it conveniently ceased to exist when Childress wanted to see it. As Childress reported in 1991 in World Explorer vol. 1, issue 1 (reprinted a year later in Lost Cities of North and Central America), when he asked Padilla about his discovery, Padilla reported that the statue had been destroyed in 1981 when revolutionaries used the statue for target practice, and they “totally disfigured it.”

But let’s not tar Childress unfairly. He dutifully reports that American archaeologist Lee A. Parsons solved the mystery of the stone head in question long before Padilla received his mysterious photograph of it. In 1991 Childress didn’t know the source of Parsons’ article, but I do: “A Pseudo Pre-Columbian Colossal Stone Head on the Pacific Coast of Guatemala,” Proceedings of the International Congress of Americanists (41st session, Mexico, 1974) vol. 1, pp. 519-521.

The head had been carved from soft volcanic pumice by a farm administrator near Las Victorias in April of 1936, possibly modeled on the colossal heads of Easter Island or Mount Rushmore. It was meant as a monument to his deceased wife and marked with a plaque bearing the date of construction. (Childress thinks the face too mannish to be a woman.) The Carnegie Institution reconnaissance survey of 1941-1942 visited the statue and found the plaque (visible in survey photos viewed by Parsons), and even met with people who had seen it carved, but when Parsons visited the site in 1970 (as he reported in 1974), the head lacked its plaque and was covered in vines. It had already eroded due to the wet climate and soft, porous nature of the volcanic rick. An intermediate stage is clearly visible in Padilla’s photo, which includes some vines. (Though, for all I know, the Padilla photo is actually one of the 1941 photographs.)



http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/the-mysterious-stone-head-of-guatemala-a-case-study-in-willful-ignorance-and-deception

[Agartha]

Place blame on the correct person! And why bring up ancient alien astronauts believers nonsense? Is rockie prodding you once again?

hahahaah!!!!! Rock doesn't have to say anything, I have my own brain to think, thank you very much!!! lol

Why did I bring up the ancient astronauts nonsense? It says why even in your link:

[size=undefined]The story was first printed in the Ancient Astronaut Society newsletter Ancient Skies, in 1987. The article included the important photograph that sat the centre of the controversy.[/size]

Childress made the story famous as it was in his book:

http://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Olmecs-David-Hatcher-Childress-ebook/dp/B005EI84QK

[Monk (in hiding)]

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[Monk (in hiding)]

King Solomon's Wall Found—Proof of Bible Tale?


A 3,000-year-old defensive wall possibly built by King Solomon has been unearthed in Jerusalem, according to the Israeli archaeologist who led the excavation. The discovery appears to validate a Bible passage, she says.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100226-king-solomon-wall-jerusalem-bible/

[Monk (in hiding)]

King Herod's Tomb Unearthed Near Jerusalem, Expert Says


After 30 years of searching, an Israeli archaeologist claims he has discovered King Herod's tomb in the Herodium complex, pictured above, which is situated in the mountains surrounding Jerusalem.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/44971756.html

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