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Post by Stargate on Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:27 pm

For the past six thousand years since the ancient Egyptians, it could be said that science and technology development has been seemingly flat. The development of new technologies has not been moving very rapidly when you think of the different cultures around the world. Although  means of communication was very slow, people found ways of transporting new ideas and making trade with each other. Traditionally people were more involved in farming and natural medicine, they were more culturally aware and wars were seldom and far apart. The world was not concerned about unemployment or population growth, immigration was not a priority in many nations. Although greed was on the rise which brought about slavery it was slow in terms of expansion.

This trend began to change after the first world war. solders were using single shot guns and bayonets to kill their opponents and war was a face to face event.  Science was just beginning to be a small intrusion in the way humans collectively understood the way matter worked. The study of phenomena was embraced by the masses; people generally were able to move with the pace of development in the field of science and technology. It brought with it a sort of relief, or let me say it helped to divert physical struggle away from man’s ability to transform one form of energy into another.

The first world war occurred around 1914, and in approximately fifty years later there was another world war, WW3. From this point on something began to change, there was a rapid acceleration in terms of science and technology. There was a direct relationship to how  war was fought, to the development of science and technology. At the end of the war man knew very little about the atoms, it was still observed as the smallest visible particle known to man. The knowledge of the universe was thought of as incomprehensible and at some point before that the world was thought of as being flat.

Then between 1945 and 2012, a matter of 67 years there was a massive acceleration in the sciences and study of matter that took humans from looking at the stars to the exploration of the universe through massive telescopes and space machines. This development could be seen as magical, therefore the question arises what could have catapulted us humans so unexplainable into this warp speed of development?

Where are we now? Science has move with such speed that people all over the world are at a loss to understand what is happening. We have engineering going on in almost every facet of society, we have penetrated the very depth of space, we are spraying the skies with substances normal people have no clue what the purpose is, half the world is suffering with diseases that are manipulated and engineered in science labs, people are massively unemployed, while drones are killing people from their desk computers operated by governments. Mind control is rampant, water contamination with substances that are dangerous for our brains are used to keep the masses quiet.

How did this happen? Where did this phenomenon come from that usually takes thousands of years to develop suddenly come from? Where is this leading us to? Is the technological development a blessing or a curse? One world order is demanding that we comply to science and technology when people no longer understand what they are being told.

I have tried to keep it short but there is no way to make it any shorter. Please comment on what you think is the driver for this phenomenon.

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Post by Rockhopper on Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:25 pm

Technology can be both good and bad, it can be used for both good and bad as well.

Unemployment is caused by the miss-management of an economy on a large scale. Capitalism is powered by greed and that causes poverty also on a large scale as more money is garnered by less and less people.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:17 am

Aqueduct of Segovia

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The actual date of the Aqueduct's construction has always been considered a mystery although it was thought to have been during the 1st century AD

The aqueduct is built of un-mortared, brick-like granite blocks.


Still standing today, almost 2,000 years old. What has modern civilization built that will last 2,000 years?

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Post by Stargate on Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:13 am

@Rockhopper wrote:Technology can be both good and bad, it can be used for both good and bad as well.

Unemployment is caused by the miss-management of an economy on a large scale. Capitalism is powered by greed and that causes poverty also on a large scale as more money is garnered by less and less people.

Tim.

After reading the whole thing again Tim, I think I left out the good part about science and technology and only mentioned the bad. As you know there are some good parts that has moved the human family forward.

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Post by Kaere on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:50 pm

I'm particularly fond of refrigeration as a positive technology... and clean drinking water whenever I want it. In my HOUSE! I am grateful every time I turn the tap.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:46 pm

@Kaere wrote:I'm particularly fond of refrigeration as a positive technology... and clean drinking water whenever I want it. In my HOUSE! I am grateful every time I turn the tap.

Not I, only drink natural spring water from one of two sources, no bottled water either.

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Post by Rockhopper on Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:19 pm

My water comes from the well, filtered by 30 miles of gravel.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:00 pm

Is it still dead water you drink or live running water (stream like)?

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Post by Kaere on Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:14 pm

VM... ummm... how do you get the water into your house? You must have running water or do you use dispensers (coolers) or ??? I'm curious about your set up Smile
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:25 am

@Kaere wrote:VM... ummm... how do you get the water into your house? You must have running water or do you use dispensers (coolers) or ??? I'm curious about your set up Smile

5 gal containers, got 30 gal stored in the garage. I admit, my water is dead still water, need to make a water structuring device.


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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:43 pm

It's effectively running water VM. The plains float on a sea of fresh water coming down from the mountains to the west. My well is 20m deep and is artesian, the water rises to about 30cm above the surrounding ground.

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Post by Mordae on Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:22 am

Long read, but a good one

IS THE WORLD LIVING OR DEAD? OR, THE TROUBLE WITH SCIENCE

I spent the beginning of this year immersed in works of popular science. Completely absorbed, the way I have been by few works of fiction. Hours spent poring over books and articles on chaos theory, cosmology, string theory, stopping only to try to imagine some consequence or take note of some insight. Why, I had to ask myself, do I care so passionately about the arcane world of theoretical physics? Science had never been my talent or my discipline; my math was poor, my academic studies were in that softest of all subjects: literature. But for many years I had had these bouts of real absorption with the ideas of science, particularly physics. I realised it had something to do with the need to understand the reality in which I lived to the fullest extent, in a particular way that nothing else but science seemed capable of now...

...The universe described by physics today is an obscure, turbid, conflicted place, where reality at the smallest scales essentially disappears in paradox, and cannot be made continuous with reality at the largest – or even at the size of the molecule. Organic life is considered a freakish anomaly, and apparently doomed to remain so. Isolation and disorder will inevitably dominate the universe as it expands and degrades, finally becoming total and eternal.

If Dante had lived today, he might have found this the perfect description of the structure of hell.

And yet, ironically, the deeper we look into space, all of what we actually see is beautiful, dynamic, multiform, filled with light and the possibilities for life – and grandly structured, with all visible matter connected in a great web that stretches across unimaginably vast distances.

But the more I read, the more I saw that the trouble with science went beyond the bizarre speculative cul de sac that theoretical physics seemed to have entered.

To most of us today, what physics talks about is really no different from science fiction – except that the plot is thinner. The Big Bang, black holes, wormholes, multiverses, superstrings, dark matter, dark energy – not one of us can independently confirm the existence or non-existence of these, or even grasp more than dimly the means scientists have used to hypothesise them. They are like mythological entities revealed to us by modern priests with hieratic knowledge.

This is not just because there has been a failure to teach science adequately in schools, or because our mass communications media have no incentive to convey complex information, although both of those things may be true. It is simply characteristic of societies that are highly specialised that extreme concentrations of wealth, power, and knowledge emerge. And those who possess them seek to retain their elite status, and have disproportionate leverage to do so, so the distance tends to increase.

At some point – but the big question is what point? – the anti-social effects of such concentrations of knowledge come to outweigh, even compromise, the value of the insights gained, however compelling they are. I would give you the example of the Mayan priest class’ astoundingly complex and elegant understanding of time, which could not save their civilisation from the perpetual war and ecological overshoot that brought about its collapse...
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:14 am

Mayan priest class’ astoundingly complex and elegant understanding of time, which could not save their civilisation from the perpetual war and ecological overshoot that brought about its collapse...

The 'Mayan priest class’ were cone heads, we killed them.

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Post by Mordae on Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:33 am

That's all you got out of it then?
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:20 am

@Mordae wrote:That's all you got out of it then?

And yet, ironically, the deeper we look into space, all of what we actually see is beautiful, dynamic, multiform, filled with light and the possibilities for life – and grandly structured, with all visible matter connected in a great web that stretches across unimaginably vast distances.



GOD!

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Post by Mordae on Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:41 am

As good a term as any Very Happy
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