Re: Biblical Archaeology ..

[Agartha]

Chimpanzee–human last common ancestor

So why didn't the chimpanzee evolve.

You are looking at it the wrong way: we had some common ancestors with the chimps. At one point some of these common ancestors moved and got isolated from the rest of the chimps. This creature could stand upright, have an opposable thumb and  could live in both land and trees, just like our beautiful chimps nowadays. The chimps that continued to live like they used to, had no evolutionary changes in their bodies. The chimps didn't need to evolve into anything else cause their environment didn't change.

 The group that got separated maybe ended up living where there were not many trees, so they had to adapt to the environment. They had to learn to run fast to avoid being killed by some animals. They evolved to become fast and strong to actually hunt some animals. They had to develop amazing sweat glands to help them cope with all their physical strain. The stronger the need to adapt, the quicker the evolution. So in a few thousand years we evolved to be bipedals, we learned to do more with our hands and the more we learned the more we seem to evolve. And we became who we are now.

Mutations are still occuring nowadays, one example is people in the Mediterranean that developed strange red blood cells to keep the malaria virus away from their system (Thalassemia) and the same with some people in Africa (Sickle cell). But mutations happen slowly and we can't see them in our short lives.

The chimps' environment hasn't changed for millions of years hence they didn't need to change... they are perfect as they are in their perfect environment..... which is why now they are all being killed by us, cause we are killing their homes.

We never evolved from chimps. We share some common ancestors.

[Monk (in hiding)]

More of the evolution  theory, I've heard the story over and over and over. Taught in all the public school systems I might add......... lsol

Look into the 'The Swedish chicken study'.

I don't buy into the simplistic belief.

Round and round and round we go.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Is Evolution Science or Philosophy?

Dr. Richard Lewontin, a geneticist, (a self proclaimed Marxist) , is a renowned champion of neo-“Darwinism and one of the world’s leaders in evolutionary biology.  He wrote the following comment. (Italics were in the original)



“We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.  It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.  Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine foot in the door.”

Richard Lewontin, Billions and billions of demons, The New York Review, p. 31, 9 January 1997.



Dr. Lewontin makes it very clear “science” (evolution) may not be the best option, but it is the only option for no other option will be allowed.  That is not a scientific statement, but a philosophical statement.  In fact, this statement says that the philosophy of materialism or atheism is at the basis of science or evolution. I thought ‘scientists’ were to be objective about the data and just follow the figures to the truth, whatever that was?  But Dr. Lewontin says that is not the truth, that there is a bigger truth than science and that is materialism or atheism.



“I think that philosophically that one should be sensitive to what I think history shows, namely, that evolution, just as much as religion -- or at least, leave "just as much," let me leave that phrase -- evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions, which at some level cannot be proven empirically. I guess we all knew that, but I think that we're all much more sensitive to these facts now. And I think that the way to deal with creationism, but the way to deal with evolution also, is not to deny these facts, but to recognize them, and to see where we can go, as we move on from there. “   Michael Ruse Speech at 'The New Antievolutionism' symposium February 13,1993

“Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented.  Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.”  William Provine   "Evolution: Free will and punishment and meaning in life”  1998  Darwin Day Keynote Address  

So from the quotes above we can see that materialism – atheism is the core philosophy of evolution, indeed the very fabric of the prime assumptions.  Evolution like a philosophy has metaphysical assumptions, it claims that no gods worth having exists, no life after death exists, no ultimate foundation for ethics exists, no ultimate meaning in life exists and human free will is nonexistent.  That sounds much like atheism.


http://www.evanwiggs.com/articles/reasons.html#science?

[Monk (in hiding)]

They use tools and communicate.  Who says they didn't evolve?  Because they don't look or act like us?  Personally, I wouldn't blame them ...

Look what we have evolved into, Locust!

[Ken McClellan]

Some of us. Others learned to live with what they had immediately around them. Unfortunately, the locusts in the crowd set things like Fukushima and its cesium-137 in motion. So all are doomed by the GE generation ...

[Monk (in hiding)]

What is the ' GE generation '?

[Ken McClellan]

The reactors at Fukushima were from GE. Believe they were installed back in the 70s. Which means the idiots in charge when you and I were growing up are the ones who effectively poisoned the Earth. And those who suffer will be our grandchildren with trashed endocrine systems.

visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation

-- Ex. 34 & Num. 14

[Lenzabi]

Seriously, it was proven back in those days that for peaceful power, reactors could run on Thorium, but instead, Japan uses uranium, which is weaponizable. They do not make Nuclear weapons, but I wonder if they hand over some to America for the weaponization process?

If they had been using Thorium, the damage would have been minimized.

A Nuclear engineer once stated that the power plants only kick 30% of their total output to power grids, American Nuclear power was started so they could make the uranium and get it ready to be made to plutonium for Thermo-nuclear weapons during the Cold War, so the power plant story was a sham and cover for weapon production, Nuclear power has been "green-washed" to be looking eco-friendly"

[Monk (in hiding)]

The reactors at Fukushima were from GE.  Believe they were installed back in the 70s.  Which means the idiots in charge when you and I were growing up are the ones who effectively poisoned the Earth.  And those who suffer will be our grandchildren with trashed endocrine systems.  

visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation

-- Ex. 34 & Num. 14

That's evil-ution of species the for ya.


The atheists sound as doomerish as the religious fanatics. lsol

[Rockhopper]

Most of the Fuel goes to France Len. They have a big re-processing factory there.

Yes, the Fukushima plant was a GE one. Therein lays the problem they had. In those reactors, the Flask is lined with Zirconium to absorb the excess Neutrons and it also blocks Gamma Radiation. 

When the power generators were knocked out by the Tsunami the Japs pumped sea water into the flasks to cool them. Hot Zirconium reacts with sea water very violently and produces large quantities of H2. The pressure split the flask and then a very big bang. The H2 exploded and we saw what happened.

Tim.

[Lenzabi]

Most of the Fuel goes to France Len. They have a big re-processing factory there.

Yes, the Fukushima plant was a GE one. Therein lays the problem they had. In those reactors, the Flask is lined with Zirconium to absorb the excess Neutrons and it also blocks Gamma Radiation. 

When the power generators were knocked out by the Tsunami the Japs pumped sea water into the flasks to cool them. Hot Zirconium reacts with sea water very violently and produces large quantities of H2. The pressure split the flask and then a very big bang. The H2 exploded and we saw what happened.

Tim.

France is a nuclear weapon power, so yeah, makes sense now.

Meltdowns,,, Now the dying of ocean life, amazing how we came from several distinct cousin species, all traced to that Tiktaalki, and have become the wreckers of our own biosphere, and they call that progress, I call it Homo Sapiens stupidicus

[Monk (in hiding)]

Remember the oil spill in the Gulf. Spill, try underwater volcano. Wonder if that messed up the Gulf Stream?

[Lenzabi]

Loss of polar ice is what actually changed the gulf stream making us get polar vortex. North Pole is too warm now.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Send some of it down here, another very cold winter. I hate this place. 6 Months of very cold, cloudy weather. Getting old and 6 Months of winter is get hard on the bones. Like an old dog who wants to lie around the fireplace.

[Rockhopper]

Yep Len, Alaska is positively balmy right now (by Alaskan standards anyway!) 

There are going to be more of those cold weather bombs VM/Omega. Need to get that bed ready by the fireplace!

Tim.

[Mordae]

The reactors at Fukushima were from GE.  Believe they were installed back in the 70s.  Which means the idiots in charge when you and I were growing up are the ones who effectively poisoned the Earth.  And those who suffer will be our grandchildren with trashed endocrine systems.  

visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation

-- Ex. 34 & Num. 14

The thing I found interesting (and the reason why Japan won't get rid of nuclear energy) is that Hitachi and Toshiba have more or less taken over the nuclear division of GE and Westinghouse.

[Rockhopper]

Chimpanzee–human last common ancestor

So why didn't the chimpanzee evolve.

Your religious human evolution beliefs are nonsense.

Chimpanzees did evolve to the point where they are now. They are different from our common ancestor and theirs.

My evolution beliefs are from well documented information. If you have any info to the contrary then post in in an appropriate place backed by evidence that can be verified.

We have had this discussion many times before and each time I ask you for evidence that can be tested you fail to produce any.

Tim.

[Rockhopper]

Good point there Mordles. Hit and Tosh have a large chunk of GE and Westinghouse.

Tim.

[Monk (in hiding)]

Chimpanzee–human last common ancestor

So why didn't the chimpanzee evolve.

Your religious human evolution beliefs are nonsense.

Chimpanzees did evolve to the point where they are now. They are different from our common ancestor and theirs.

My evolution beliefs are from well documented information. If you have any info to the contrary then post in in an appropriate place backed by evidence that can be verified.

We have had this discussion many times before and each time I ask you for evidence that can be tested you fail to produce any.

Tim.

Your Evolution beliefs are a twisted form of Buddhism.

Bhavacakra = wheel of becoming (to evolve into a higher state).

The modern belief in Evolution of the Species are purely based on physical/ materialism/ 3D reality.

It is the work of our masters, our Earthly masters that have enslaved us on their prison planet. The masters of controlling the masses of humanity.

'Evolution of the Species' is simply the faith of Atheists, a World without God, without a Creator.

They talk about our evolving, yet fear we are destroying the Earth. How can this be???

It is the worshiping of a false God, a dead end for humanity..

The lower state species (animals) are perfect, yet humans, the higher state are corrupted with knowledge, with thinking, not being. Why is this? The more 'thinking' we do, the more removed from the natural order we become.

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[Ken McClellan]

All this talk of avatars ... you know I can't even see my own? Truly, must be some setting in my Opera browser but I don't see any. In fact, I don't see the images for all the vids you folks post either. Maybe this is blissful, but I sort of wonder what I've been missing.

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