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Post by Stargate on Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:44 pm

Ω wrote:
@Rockhopper wrote:I agree Star violence should never be used in general and only as a very last resort after all else has failed.

Tim.

Violence by the authorities or violence by the people?

I think maybe the question should be when, instead of by whom. Violence is a part of our make up, the thing is we have to make decisions when to use it.

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Post by Agartha on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:08 pm

I used to follow a page on FB against racism, until this afternoon. Today they owners made a post I didn't agree with: they asked people to march peacefully in Ferguson..... but only 'people of colour'. When I posted and asked them why, they said they do not want white people to hijack their march.
I couldn't believe it..... apparently it's not just them:

Columbia, MO. — Organizers of a recent Ferguson protest at the University of Missouri requested “only people of color” take part in the event’s “die-in,” one element of a larger demonstration that prompted at least two classes to be shelved so students could participate...
http://dcbeacon.com/white-students-told-they-cant-participate-in-ferguson-die-in-demonstration/

I do not follow that page anymore, as I believe they are total idiots. I think they are completely wrong and the University of Missouri are wrong too...... we are all people..... when are we going to stop dividing ourselves into races that do not exist?
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:10 pm

The 'colour' is being 'colored' by law' enforcement.

Make it a race problem.

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Post by Agartha on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:12 pm

Ω wrote:The 'colour' is being 'colored' by law' enforcement.

Make it a race problem.

Yes, but now the protesters are acting as racist as the police, by not wanting white people with them.. disgusting either way.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:22 pm

Oath keepers, protecting private businesses.

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:38 pm

Ironic that a page on FB against racism would be sponsored by a group engaged in same. Hardly surprising though!
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Post by Kaere on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:58 pm

There was a kerfuffle at a protest in Ottawa as well where white people were asked to stay out of sight as "it's not your fight". Bullcrap I say to that, it's everyone's fight.
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Post by Lenzabi on Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:36 pm

Once they are done with the Blacks,,,red men, browns, yellows, they will have started to pick out and go for the lesser "white", Jews, Italians, slavs, etc. It is everyone's fight as the system created this mess and made the monster-cops that are in the news.

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Post by Rockhopper on Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:24 pm

Things are quickly coming to a head. Which way it will go is conjecture just now, wait and see,

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:44 pm

Intolerance will breed intolerance. And we've five decades of subsidized fatherlessness contributing to today's drug-addled thuggery where one's idea of "fun" is a knockout "game." I would place the blame at LBJ's feet, but he'd be proud of what he had done for the Dems. Some "Great Society" ...
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Post by Agartha on Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:38 am

I am intolerant to intolerance. And I definitely wouldn't go live in the US, the most colour divided + intolerant country in the West.
But I am really disappointed that the same it's happening in Canada... I wonder what the future will look like..
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:38 am

It's all just a diversion.

U.S. to Continue Racial, Ethnic Profiling in Border Policy

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will soon issue new rules curtailing the use of profiling, but federal agents will still be allowed to consider race and ethnicity when stopping people at airports, border crossings and immigration checkpoints, according to several government officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/06/us/politics/obama-to-impose-racial-profiling-curbs-with-exceptions.html?_r=0

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Post by Stirky on Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:42 am

We live in an age now where the divide should be non-existent. There is much more of a mix of races and people from foreign countries in towns and cities, there is becoming much less of a divide. A lot more people now are of mixed race and heritage. So having such a divide still standing now is so wrong, we are all human beings, no matter what colour our skin or what country we come from.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:50 am

The real problem is 'the divide' between rich and poor.

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Post by Agartha on Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:34 am

There was a big thing about racial profiling in the UK a couple of years ago, as it came to light that 3/4 of those stopped in the street were black/brown males under 30. I personally think it is discriminatory..... humiliating for all those that are stopped that are not criminals, but they fit a certain profile.

Funny how white men had enslaved black males for centuries and treated them as third class citizens..... and yet managed to convince everybody that those black men are the dangerous ones.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:47 am

"The majority of Negro owners of slaves had some personal interest in their property." But, he admits, "There were instances, however, in which free Negroes had a real economic interest in the institution of slavery and held slaves in order to improve their economic status."
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Post by Agartha on Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:01 am

I think today I'm having a  'I'm giving up on the human race' kind of day..... maybe I should go to sleep and start anew tomorrow....
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Post by Ken McClellan on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:15 pm

The real problem is 'the divide' between rich and poor.

Wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't been making it steadily worse for a generation. America is starting to look like a Third World nation! (By design!)
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Post by Lenzabi on Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:55 pm

3rd world country, Germany 1930's, etc, take your pick

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Post by Stargate on Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:19 am

Until the color of a mans skin has no more significant than the color of his eyes there will be wars and rumors of wars. I go with what Stirks is saying, we are too mixed now for this superiorty nonsence to continue, we cannot let color devide us. Most people of the world are no longer interested in white supremacy they want a good future for their childen and to be able to provide food and shelter. America is at a cross roads because the younger generation no longer support the racial madness. We cannot tolerate this practice on planet earth.

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