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Post by Kaere on Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:23 pm

Ice age Andes settlement found at record high altitude

12,400-year-old site in Peru shows ice age humans more adaptable than thought

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/ice-age-andes-settlement-found-at-record-high-altitude-1.2810407
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Post by Rockhopper on Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:34 am

They certainly were Ka. Not too bad for people who were supposedly dumb and unable to think things out for themselves.

Good link, thanks!

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Post by Agartha on Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:19 am

I agree, our ancestors were clever and we should not deny their ingenuity, thinking skills and capabilities.

I believe the Andes were about 25m lower then than they are now, but I don't think that would have changed the oxygen levels much. Perhaps the weather being a bit cooler and wetter back then meant oxygen levels were higher?
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Post by Rockhopper on Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:32 pm

The O2 levels could well have been higher Ags. The Andes may not have been so high either.

The Alps here are only 28,000yrs old. Before then they were just a range of low hills. Now they are on average 10,000ft high.

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Post by Aianawa aianawa nui on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:21 am

Cheers Kaere, lsol
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:55 am

@Agartha wrote:I agree, our ancestors were clever and we should not deny their ingenuity, thinking skills and capabilities.

I believe the Andes were about 25m lower then than they are now, but I don't think that would have changed the oxygen levels much. Perhaps the weather being a bit cooler and wetter back then meant oxygen levels were higher?

It's not the land mass being lower, it's the sea level was higher.

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Not during the Ice Age VM/Omega. The sea was much lower then. The water was locked in ice.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:03 pm

@Rockhopper wrote:Not during the Ice Age VM/Omega. The sea was much lower then. The water was locked in ice.

Tim.

Then land masses were not Higher either. Like Atlantis, people think it sank, if it existed it disappeared due to rising sea levels. Sounds good?

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:07 pm

Nope. Mountain Ranges like the Andes have been pushed up by Plate Tectonics. In some cases in a matter of years.

The Kaikouras here are at 8000' and are only 12,000 years old.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:10 pm

All of the above..

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Post by Rockhopper on Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:34 pm

Ω wrote:Then land masses were not Higher either. Like Atlantis, people think it sank, if it existed it disappeared due to rising sea levels. Sounds good?

We have mapped all the sea floor and there is nothing like a city anywhere under the water. The nearest thing to that is the sunken part of Alexandria that was drowned in a huge earthquake.

Te only reference to Atlantis was Plato who was not a historian but a story-teller. He used to travel around telling stories, many of which were filled with allegories about Good against Not-so-good and Greed over Good etc.

H.P. Lovecraft conflated it in one of his stories (he was a Story-teller too!) and that started all the stories swirling around about it.

The Cretan (Minoan) civilisation built a colony on the island of Thera, they did on many other islands too but Thera was the biggest. Thera is a dormant volcano and the city was built on the dome island in the middle of the crater. Thera was chosen because it was easily defended having a narrow channel into the crater. When Thera erupted about 3/4 of the central island was blown to dust and ash along with a sizable part of the city. The resultant tsunami destroyed the ports around Crete, the remains of which are still visible today. The Minoan civilisation never survived that event.

Incidentally, if you ever get the chance to visit Crete tell 'em that you are a Kiwi, you'll be treated like royalty there. It was because a Battalion of Kiwis held off the German invasion for a month and then fought hard to drive them out. The Cretan people are forever grateful for the sacrifice of the Kiwi soldiers in WW II.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:43 pm

Menouthis and Herakleion Smile

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Post by Rockhopper on Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:34 am

Ω wrote:Menouthis and Herakleion Smile

They were the ports of Alex mate.

Yup. Alexandria, drowned by an earthquake. Possibly the same one that destroyed the walls of Jericho.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:07 am

Please quit talking down to me.

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Post by Rockhopper on Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:01 pm

Talking down to you? I just state things that have been researched and the evidence is there.

Perhaps you should look back at the personal attacks you make from time to time.

Menouthis and Herakleion were Greek ports established at Alexandria.

The AD 365 Crete earthquake was an undersea earthquake that occurred at about sunrise on 21 July 365 in the Eastern Mediterranean,[3][4] with an assumed epicentre near Crete.[5] Geologists today estimate the quake to have been a magnitude eight or higher,[4] causing widespread destruction in central and southern Greece, northern Libya, Egypt, Cyprus, and Sicily.[6] In Crete, nearly all towns were destroyed.[4]

The Crete earthquake was followed by a tsunami which devastated the southern and eastern coasts of the Mediterranean, particularly Libya, Alexandria and the Nile Delta, killing thousands and hurling ships 3 km (1.9 mi) inland.[7] The quake left a deep impression on the late antique mind, and numerous writers of the time referred in their works to the event.[8]

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:00 pm

~ bye. Wink

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:30 pm

Ω wrote:~ bye. Wink

Wot Again???

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:55 pm

Please quit talking down to me.

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:01 pm

Please stop the personal attacks!

We all too often denigrate our ancestors and some think of them as being incapable of building anything substantial. That is just so wrong! They were any bit as clever as us and in some cases even more so.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:47 am

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