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Post by Ken McClellan on Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:25 am

I used to live by the maxim, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." However, over the years I finally figured out that the parasites in charge really are despicable and immoral and greedy and faithless and lots of other adjectives for bottom-dwelling scavengers. Malice really does describe it. And I'd vote for Bundy quicker than Reid.
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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:28 am

@Ken McClellan wrote:I used to live by the maxim, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."  However, over the years I finally figured out that the parasites in charge really are despicable and immoral and greedy and faithless and lots of other adjectives for bottom-dwelling scavengers.  Malice really does describe it.  And I'd vote for Bundy quicker than Reid.

Did you know dirty harry was planning on installing a huge Chinese solar farm in the area?

Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.

Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.


http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:54 pm

Alex Jones eh?

Remember that man finds conspiracies in a bowl of oatmeal!

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:42 pm

Just your opinion.

Prove me incorrect!

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Post by Rockhopper on Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:42 pm

Yep. Comes from plain old common sense do you know what that is?

I like to watch Alex Jones when I need a bloody good laugh. Always watch him in my high-sided chair so I don't fall on the floor laughing!

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Post by Stargate on Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:50 pm

Tim, just backing up a little and revisiting the problems in Ferguson pertaining to the question of violence. I listened to some people expressing their view that many people tried to address the problem of police arrasment peacefully but could not get a response from the powers that prevail. They further said it is foolish to try to use a language that is not recognized or understood. The people of Furguson tried to peacefully protest but was confronted with massive violence by the police. They did get a response but not before they took the violent path. In other words they claim that it is through their violent action they were able to draw attention to thier plight.

On the other hand the president made some statements that violence in itself cannot solve any problem, yet the US is involved in so many countries committing acts of violence. This leads me to think that language has changed in terms of understanding. If one uses a language that is not understood what can be expected? In the end violence is a reaction. It might not solve a problem but it can make known a problem exist. Violence is a last resort and in my view must only be activated in a defensive mode.

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Post by Rockhopper on Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:16 am

I agree Star violence should never be used in general and only as a very last resort after all else has failed.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:49 am

@Rockhopper wrote:Yep. Comes from plain old common sense do you know what that is?

I like to watch Alex Jones when I need a bloody good laugh. Always watch him in my high-sided chair so I don't fall on the floor laughing!

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I can't help you.

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Post by Rockhopper on Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:28 pm

Didn't ask you to VM/Omega.




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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:10 am

Anyhoo, you are not a citizen of the United States, your a subject under the British crown.

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Post by Monk (in hiding) on Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:19 am

@Rockhopper wrote:I agree Star violence should never be used in general and only as a very last resort after all else has failed.

Tim.

Violence by the authorities or violence by the people?

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:24 am

The closer each side gets to violence, the closer the whole "system" inches toward anarchy.  But the truth is, people can identify with and feel compelled to join in violence from either side, depending on their self image and their perception of the victim(s).    All it requires is the sentiment, "They've had it coming."  Tar and feathers or worse will be the order of the day.  Which is probably why you don't see many hot asphalt trucks meandering down DC boulevards! The pols wouldn't feel safe ...
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Post by Lenzabi on Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:53 pm

Torches and pitchforks are likely then, as in Versailles lead France 1790's

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Post by Rockhopper on Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:04 pm

@Lenzabi wrote:Torches and pitchforks are likely then, as in Versailles lead France 1790's

And that is the scary thing Len. Revolutions don't always go the way they should.

Examples of that are Ukraine, Egypt, and even Syria where the Opposition are fighting each other instead of combining to fight the Dictator.

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Post by Rockhopper on Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:46 pm

Chris Trotter, a News Commentator here sums it up well:

The most significant effect of this massive disempowerment of the Western working-classes is the radical reduction in the distance between the surface of the State and its foundations. For the neoliberal victors of the ideological struggle, only the institutions of the Deep State are deemed worthy of preservation. The Courts, the Police, the Prisons, the Armed Forces, the Security Services: all are needed to manage the consequences of the free-market revolution. In Fukuyama’s “liberal capitalist democracies” the only remaining legitimate role for elected politicians is to keep the agencies of repression and social control adequately funded and fit for purpose.
 
To justify this “night-watchman” role, the modern politician is required to manufacture a menagerie of enemies frightening enough to keep a majority of the voting public clamouring for safety and security. Democratic politics is thus reduced to a combination of cheap vaudeville routines and spectacular conjuring tricks. The electoral “audience” is first persuaded to identify and bond with their political impresarios, and then impelled to seek protection from the succession of scary monsters which their masters periodically summon to the stage.
 
This sort of politics cannot succeed without the active participation of the news media. Even more than the traditional agencies of social control and repression, the media has become integral to the Deep State’s protection of the neoliberal revolution. For the “Politics of the Spectacle” to work its magic of misdirection and distraction, the media must be fully engaged in the process. This not only requires the transformation of politicians into media “talent”, but also the Deep State’s active collaboration in fuelling and maintaining the media’s evolving political narratives.

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:42 pm

The only use of our bankster groupie elite is to increase national debt on behalf of their masters. They won't figure out oppression until their families are rounded up. Like the trashing of the dollar in a century of Federal Reserve banking, the change needn't come overnight to achieve its objective.
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Post by Lenzabi on Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:32 pm

Media is already part of the fear mongering propaganda machine.

Dept. Homeland Security is our present day Oligarchy's "Gestapo" over seeing all law enforcement.

DC is a the hotbed of Bankster/Oligarchy/Corporate domination as the Legislative/Executive and Judicial branches have pretty much been taken over by the coin party, it is essentially one party with two faces.

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:45 pm

one party with two faces.

And the Protocols strike again.

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Post by Lenzabi on Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:02 pm

My roommates can't seem to handle the Macchiavellian webs of thought for such connections, they think me getting paranoid, LOL. They have no clue of the games played by beings such as "blood and sand" similar to the one played here on Earth.

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Post by Ken McClellan on Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:25 pm

We will entrust important posts to people whose record and characters are so bad as to form a gulf between the nation and themselves, and to such people who, in case they disobey our orders, may expect judgment and imprisonment. ...

See one of Cathy O'Brien's books. It will curl your toenails! (Or see Carolyn Hamlett's website.) The scum of the Earth rule this planet.

Honestly, it reminds me of a scene in Robin Hood "Until Lambs Become Lions." And on the next we have yet to write will depend our judgment.
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