Re: CORONAVIRUS-Updates, discussion, etc

[IceWendigo]

Even medical authorities such as Illinois and the Globalist traitor Arruda in Quebec admitted that if a patient with Terminal Cancer dies FROM Cancer but had tested positive to covid (which is up to 94% false positive because they amplify with 40-45 cycles) the cause of death will be counted as Covid death, its a giant statistical FRAUD.

[IceWendigo]

Will the annouced Liverpool mass Covid19 testing be voluntary or mandatory?

[Agartha]

1) The mass covid test in Liverpool is voluntary, of course. This is Europe, not North Korea. 

2) Regarding the CDC data, this is how it works: when someone has cancer (for example) and they are hospitalized and test positive for Covid, BOTH POSSIBLE causes of deaths are recorded because it's impossible to tell whether the cancer contributed to the death, or whether Covid did. Hence, I repeat, BOTH possible causes of deaths are recorded in the data. 

Here is the link for the CDC Data: 
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Conditions-contributing-to-deaths-involving-corona/hk9y-quqm
Notice the title: Conditions contributing to deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 
Contributing conditions + involving Covid. 

I verify deaths as part of my job (elderly people with comorbidities that have a life expectancy lower than 12 months). If one of them has, for example, late stages kidney disease and they have covid when they die, the causes of death I will record are both Chronic Kidney Disease and Covid. Both. 

The guideline we use say: 


"A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)."

And even if the guideline says probable covid case, we always test and Covid is always confirmed. If you mention again false positives, bear in mind that even if the person with a false positive is not contagious anymore, that person was infected with the virus at some point to be a false positive (usually less than 28 days before).  

Don't listen to journalists who are not trained to understand medical data, always read the data yourself or ask someone in the profession to explain it.

[IceWendigo]

Thanks Agartha.
Here in criminal Globalist Quebec, tests are amplified with 40-45 cycles creating false positives , AND they are NOT testing all deaths claimed as covid AND they have forbidden autopsises to conceal their crimes.

[IceWendigo]

[Agartha]

[Agartha]

Sorry the picture is so large!

[IceWendigo]

is there a link, i cant see the picture? are you talling about the previous post.about denmark? (it makes me sad for people in Scottland)

[Agartha]

It's the picture above, the one with Nicola Sturgeon.

Sorry about Scotland? Don't be, the Scottish Education System is really good, hence children understand science. We also have a great socialist Party that caters for everyone, and looks after those that are vulnerable. The opposite of Conservatives who only care about their rich pals.

[IceWendigo]

[IceWendigo]

Question: Is this for real?

[IceWendigo]

Speaking of tests, Elon Musk was tested 4 times, 2 tests were positive, 2 negative.

"Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. "

The test maybe unreliable, but the billions we are paying like there is no tomorrow is reliably shoveled into Big Pharma profits.

[Agartha]

Big Pharma? Of course drugs makers are not saints and they work for a profit, but who doesn't? Does your internet provider works for a profit? Does your car manufacturer works for a profit? Does your electricity provider work for a profit? They all do, so why do you think pharmaceutical companies should be non profit?

Pharmaceutical companies fund more than 80% of drugs research and trials. Do you think governments would have that much money to spend? Yes, they do make a terrible profit, but they also provide life saving medication, for example insulin. Do you take analgesia? That's Big Pharma. Do you take vitamins? That's Big pharma. Do you think the demand for meds and paying for them is a modern thing? Not at all, it was already happening in ancient history.

Regarding Elon Musk test: the rapid tests are not as accurate. Also, if he is right at the beginning of the infection or at the end, he may not have had enough virus load to be detected with each swab. He also didn't clarify whether he had 2 positives, then swab again and had 2 negatives: that would indicate they removed all traces of virus with the first 2 swabs (if they have used the same side of the throat or same nostril).

[IceWendigo]

A thousand elderly people die in elderly care home every month in Quebec alone WITHOUT covid every year, because people simply die at some point, thats the way it is, test people about to die with inaccurate tests that give out false positives and you'll have your daily dose of deaths for the Fearmongering media circus. Not only did Elon Musk test positive twice out of 4 tests, and Erykah Badu tests positive for COVID-19 in left nostril, negative in right, but here in Quebec PCR test are cycled 40 times which is ridiculous and gives false positives, PLUS they count people that die of OTHER CAUSES like Cancer into covid as authorities have admitted twice in Quebec alone(and Illinois and elsewhere), PLUS here they are prohibiting autopsies to cover their tracks. 


What is total mortality compared to the same month of previous years!?! THAT is what people need to know. What was total mortality in October last year and this years, is there a million deaths difference this year that justifies making business go bankrupt, people losing their homes or committing suicide, people and children wearing dehumanizing masks and totalitarian measures preventing us from seeing friends and family for months??? 

[IceWendigo]

The Blatant problem with Big Pharma, is CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS worth BILLIONS, thats why millions for rigged studdies for a medication or against a non-patented medication and Millions in corruption and bribes is a drop in the bucket and why WHO is utterly in the pocket of Foundations and corrupt to the core.
WE pay for research, WE PAY, the difference is that the research is NOT transparent, research that we pay is cherry picked those that dont promote a product goes in the garbage, We pay for lobbyists, We pay for advertizing, We pay rebranded drugs, WE pay for the Bribes that big pharma hands out that are working without our knowledge and against our interests. 

The problem with current government organizations, on the other hand, is that they are hierarchic, closed and non transparent despite being supposedly "public". Hierarchy is as detrimental to humans and human civilization as slavery

Imho It would be better to have 100% transparent non-profit non-hierarchic open and democratic(in the real sense, not the fraud we call democracy) organizations to produce medication and work in cooperation with Public hospitals and Public Universities for research.

[IceWendigo]

(Big Pharma, on top of all that since Billions are made from people being SICK, there is no incentive to find non-patentable cures and even less to PREVENT diseases in the first place, all is focused on Drugs (and vaccines). Insulin was discovered by University researchers  and its use for type 2 Diabetes is an excellent illustration of the problem of For Profit Research being pushed on the Medical Establishment as opposed to finding the root cause of problems and preventing the disease.)

[Agartha]

What is total mortality compared to the same month of previous years!?! THAT is what people need to know. What was total mortality in October last year and this years, is there a million deaths difference this year that justifies making business go bankrupt, people losing their homes or committing suicide, people and children wearing dehumanizing masks and totalitarian measures preventing us from seeing friends and family for months??? 

No, not millions, but thousands and that's still a big number of extra people dying. In Canada, during the first wave, there were 7000 extra deaths: is that not enough for you? Those 7000 were all somebody's father, mother, daughter or son.  

Also: masks are dehuminizing? Do you know what's dehuminising: people dying alone in hospitals after catching covid because somebody who was asymptomatic coughed near them and they were not wearing a mask.

Here you go, weekly numbers of death in Quebec compared to other years:




Source: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/200619/g-b002-eng.htm

Canada hasn't been affected as bad as other countries, like England for example who had the worst excess deaths number in Europe.

[Agartha]

(Big Pharma, on top of all that since Billions are made from people being SICK, there is no incentive to find non-patentable cures and even less to PREVENT diseases in the first place, all is focused on Drugs (and vaccines). Insulin was discovered by University researchers  and its use for type 2 Diabetes is an excellent illustration of the problem of For Profit Research being pushed on the Medical Establishment as opposed to finding the root cause of problems and preventing the disease.)

I want to make clear that I also think 'Big Pharma' should be more transparent and I am aware of times when some companies tweaked their numbers to get contracts with governments. But I can also see why they are needed.

Diabetes type 1 does not have a cure and will probably never have a cure.

Diabetes type 2 is different, but it requires people to exercise, eat well and loose weight. If people are not willing to do that they need medication to survive. The root of the problem lies on people eating takeaways and ready made meals all the time and not being a healthy BMI. They are the root of the problem, if they all decided to change their ways then 'Big Pharma' would lose lots of clients. 

But for many diseases we still don't have cures. Back in time people used to die of infections, but then we invented antibiotics. People used to die of measles, and we created vaccines. We have the cure for some cancers but not others, etc. This is why we need pharmaceutical companies.

I blame 'alternative therapists' and 'naturopaths' for the 'Big Pharma' conspiracy because they post a lot of nonsense that lay people believe as true and have created a distrust on doctors and scientists so that the gullible will spend their money on them and their products. They created the name 'Big Pharma'.

[IceWendigo]

A MUST LISTEN! 
THIS is a Meeting Privately Recorded in EDMONTON Alberta Canada last week!
Former head of Alberta College of Physicians and Surgeons

[Lenzabi]

(Big Pharma, on top of all that since Billions are made from people being SICK, there is no incentive to find non-patentable cures and even less to PREVENT diseases in the first place, all is focused on Drugs (and vaccines). Insulin was discovered by University researchers  and its use for type 2 Diabetes is an excellent illustration of the problem of For Profit Research being pushed on the Medical Establishment as opposed to finding the root cause of problems and preventing the disease.)

I want to make clear that I also think 'Big Pharma' should be more transparent and I am aware of times when some companies tweaked their numbers to get contracts with governments. But I can also see why they are needed.

Diabetes type 1 does not have a cure and will probably never have a cure.

Diabetes type 2 is different, but it requires people to exercise, eat well and loose weight. If people are not willing to do that they need medication to survive. The root of the problem lies on people eating takeaways and ready made meals all the time and not being a healthy BMI. They are the root of the problem, if they all decided to change their ways then 'Big Pharma' would lose lots of clients. 

But for many diseases we still don't have cures. Back in time people used to die of infections, but then we invented antibiotics. People used to die of measles, and we created vaccines. We have the cure for some cancers but not others, etc. This is why we need pharmaceutical companies.

I blame 'alternative therapists' and 'naturopaths' for the 'Big Pharma' conspiracy because they post a lot of nonsense that lay people believe as true and have created a distrust on doctors and scientists so that the gullible will spend their money on them and their products. They created the name 'Big Pharma'.

Another reason Big Pharma is called that is because here in the USA, they spend BIG bucks to get their way, they are one of the BIGs that own our politicians, so they can speed rush meds to make a big buck even if it is not properly full tested like Invokana, which was supposed to help folks with diabetes 2 but damaged kidneys. They also pushed to have medicine prices set as they were comfortable with here unlike how they got forced by Europe to chop prices, or, if they cut prices, they get tax payer subsidies to offset the loss, on top of their tax breaks.

The Corporate States of Oligarchia belong to the wealthy and their corporate servants, not the People. Sad, but it has been a slow, bloodless coup by them to do so.

Big Pharma, Big Aggro/food, Big Medicine, Big Insurance, Big Oil, the M.I.C. and the P.I.C and others own the polis here so much we should demand they wear jackets with their donors' labels patch3ed on to see who owns them.

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