CORONAVIRUS-Updates, discussion, etc
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Oh no, Trump is seriously that stupid
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He now says he was just being sarcastic! Wtf!!!
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Trump is to insanity what Bush was to stupidity: The bottomless pit, the inexhaustible supply, the gift that keeps on giving.
For a long time now I find it very difficult to put any comment past him, spoken or Tweeted, due to his history of hilarity.
(And while he’s not as dense as Bush, I do think stupidity plays a part in the ridiculousness of the things he says too TBH, as well as craziness; he’s a Molotov cocktail of both those things.)
For a long time now I find it very difficult to put any comment past him, spoken or Tweeted, due to his history of hilarity.
(And while he’s not as dense as Bush, I do think stupidity plays a part in the ridiculousness of the things he says too TBH, as well as craziness; he’s a Molotov cocktail of both those things.)
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Trump is a fool and a dangerous fool
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Just thought about this earlier, wonder what Trump would say in a speech if US scientists came up with a working vaccine... “They did a lot of bleaching!”
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He would take credit for it all even though he just defunded the CDC division working on it
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Good to see you back, Len!
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Great news about Canada!!
More countries need to start implementing a policy of elimination like New Zealand has, that would be the quickest way of beating this virus IMO.
More countries need to start implementing a policy of elimination like New Zealand has, that would be the quickest way of beating this virus IMO.
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Sadly my country seems to be the Verruca Salt of nations when it comers to flattening the curve. Debating wearing masks, wanting to go out mask-less or masked and other activity that seems to spike the virus cases because we are too impatient to let the curve flatten BEFORE we re-open places up.
I swear, I feel stuck in stupid-topia!
I swear, I feel stuck in stupid-topia!
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BTW, good to be back Ags
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Lenzabi wrote:
I swear, I feel stuck in stupid-topia!
I think we all feel concerned for Americans. It seems ludicrous much that goes on there. Just hope there can be change there soon for all you decent people.
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Wow Canada! You've done well!!
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Things feel pretty normal actually... people are still being cautious, we're wearing masks, all that. But yeah, feels pretty reasonable. Nowhere near the level of fear there was.
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Great to hear that
Hope things can continue becoming more normal there!
Sounds like Canada is going the same way as many European countries now.
Hope things can continue becoming more normal there!
Sounds like Canada is going the same way as many European countries now.
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Just came across this interesting article via the C-19 app this morning, regarding evidence that Coronavirus is seasonal, so thought I’d share it:
Is COVID-19 worse in winter?
July 22, 2020
An international collaboration of researchers from Europe and China has shown that temperature and humidity in the environment have an effect on the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.
Comparing outcomes from more than 40,000 COVID-19 patients over the course of the pandemic suggests that the disease is more severe in colder months than warmer ones, and that dry indoor air may encourage the spread of the disease.
Many viruses show seasonal incidence and are more common during the colder winter months, but it is not yet known whether SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, follows a similar pattern. Previous studies have shown that viral transmission appears to decrease as temperature and humidity rise, suggesting a seasonal pattern, but the results are inconsistent.
In this study, researchers analysed data from nearly 7,000 patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 in Croatia, Spain, Italy, Finland, Poland, Germany, the UK and China.
Mapping this information against local temperature and estimated indoor humidity revealed that severe COVID-19 outcomes (hospitalisation, admittance to ICU or need for ventilation) decreased in most European countries over the course of the pandemic, covering the transition from winter to early summer.
There was also a corresponding decrease in the rate of deaths (mortality) from the disease, with a roughly 15% drop in mortality for every one degree Celsius rise in temperature. By contrast, the severity of symptoms and mortality rate remained constant in China during the first wave of the pandemic, which occurred solely throughout the winter.
Analysis of data from more than 37,000 UK users of the nearly four million using the COVID Symptom Study app reporting symptoms consistent with COVID-19 showed a similar decrease in the severity of reported symptoms from March through May as UK temperatures rose.
These changes were too large to be explained by improvements in treatment of COVID-19, patient age or hospitals becoming overwhelmed during this time, suggesting that there is a seasonal influence on the virus.
Although SARS-CoV-2 can clearly spread in hot, humid countries in East Asia, it is notable that the severity and mortality from the disease have been lower than in Europe and other more temperate climates.
The researchers suggest that indoor heating during the winter months may also contribute to the spread of the disease by drying out the protective mucus barrier within the nose and airways, making viral infection easier. Additionally, very dry indoor environments created by air conditioning in hot countries (such as in the Southern US) could also contribute to the severity of the disease - a hypothesis that needs further investigation.
“Our findings point to a role for seasonality in the transmission and severity of COVID-19, and also argue for increased humidity and hydration as a way to combat the virus,” said Dr Gordan Lauc, Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of Zagreb and honorary visiting Professor at King’s College London and senior author of the study. “This paints a grim picture for the next winter in Europe when more severe “winter” COVID-19 is expected to return - something we are currently observing in the southern hemisphere.”
COVID Symptom Study lead Professor Tim Spector from King’s College London added, “This study highlights the importance of gathering long-term data about the incidence, symptoms and progression of COVID-19 from as many people as possible. By understanding the many factors that contribute to the severity and spread of the disease, we can implement effective measures to control it over the coming months.”
A paper detailing the results is available online as a pre-print, and has been submitted to a scientific journal for rapid peer review and publication.
Is COVID-19 worse in winter?
July 22, 2020
An international collaboration of researchers from Europe and China has shown that temperature and humidity in the environment have an effect on the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.
Comparing outcomes from more than 40,000 COVID-19 patients over the course of the pandemic suggests that the disease is more severe in colder months than warmer ones, and that dry indoor air may encourage the spread of the disease.
Many viruses show seasonal incidence and are more common during the colder winter months, but it is not yet known whether SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, follows a similar pattern. Previous studies have shown that viral transmission appears to decrease as temperature and humidity rise, suggesting a seasonal pattern, but the results are inconsistent.
In this study, researchers analysed data from nearly 7,000 patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 in Croatia, Spain, Italy, Finland, Poland, Germany, the UK and China.
Mapping this information against local temperature and estimated indoor humidity revealed that severe COVID-19 outcomes (hospitalisation, admittance to ICU or need for ventilation) decreased in most European countries over the course of the pandemic, covering the transition from winter to early summer.
There was also a corresponding decrease in the rate of deaths (mortality) from the disease, with a roughly 15% drop in mortality for every one degree Celsius rise in temperature. By contrast, the severity of symptoms and mortality rate remained constant in China during the first wave of the pandemic, which occurred solely throughout the winter.
Analysis of data from more than 37,000 UK users of the nearly four million using the COVID Symptom Study app reporting symptoms consistent with COVID-19 showed a similar decrease in the severity of reported symptoms from March through May as UK temperatures rose.
These changes were too large to be explained by improvements in treatment of COVID-19, patient age or hospitals becoming overwhelmed during this time, suggesting that there is a seasonal influence on the virus.
Although SARS-CoV-2 can clearly spread in hot, humid countries in East Asia, it is notable that the severity and mortality from the disease have been lower than in Europe and other more temperate climates.
The researchers suggest that indoor heating during the winter months may also contribute to the spread of the disease by drying out the protective mucus barrier within the nose and airways, making viral infection easier. Additionally, very dry indoor environments created by air conditioning in hot countries (such as in the Southern US) could also contribute to the severity of the disease - a hypothesis that needs further investigation.
“Our findings point to a role for seasonality in the transmission and severity of COVID-19, and also argue for increased humidity and hydration as a way to combat the virus,” said Dr Gordan Lauc, Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of Zagreb and honorary visiting Professor at King’s College London and senior author of the study. “This paints a grim picture for the next winter in Europe when more severe “winter” COVID-19 is expected to return - something we are currently observing in the southern hemisphere.”
COVID Symptom Study lead Professor Tim Spector from King’s College London added, “This study highlights the importance of gathering long-term data about the incidence, symptoms and progression of COVID-19 from as many people as possible. By understanding the many factors that contribute to the severity and spread of the disease, we can implement effective measures to control it over the coming months.”
A paper detailing the results is available online as a pre-print, and has been submitted to a scientific journal for rapid peer review and publication.
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Covid being a seasonal virus is not good news, not good at all as it predicts an unpleasant Winter for us in the Northern Hemisphere as we have colder tougher cold seasons. We can see the numbers have risen in the Southern Hemispheres where Winters are not as cold and not as long.... if numbers rise I predict schools will not stay open as normal for long.
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